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s and salutations friends and welcome

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back we have a very special guest for

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you tonight occasionally in my travels

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in this strange and mysterious place

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that I sometimes find myself in I find

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some uh interesting individuals and

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tonight's guest is no different uh

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looking into him is an interesting

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Rabbit Hole in and of itself because uh

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tonight's guest Ken me has written over

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50 books and not just written books but

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done these incredible deep dives into

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strange and esoteric subjects things

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like Angels demons cherubs the Nephilim

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or Giants of Bible Fame and of course uh

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he's here tonight to talk about his Deep

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dive and research and study into aliens

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he's the author of the most uh

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almost more than 50 books I believe

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we'll clarify that with him and uh

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before I forget the the book that I was

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most interested in talking to him about

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was 50 Shades of Gray aliens and

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consideration of aliens uh which

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discusses in great detail the gray

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aliens that something we're all familiar

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with you can go to Amazon and just

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search Ken and me and see all of his

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many many books if you're interested in

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um religion and philosophy of religion

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or uh some of the strange and esoteric

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topics of religion like Lucifer and the

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devil and uh the history of the angels

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and the war in heaven his books are

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filled with things like this uh tonight

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we're going to be focusing mostly on

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Aliens I believe though although I could

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I would talk to him for five hours about

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these other subjects maybe we could

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bring him back uh we're both both got a

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lot of weird synchronicities here

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because he and I are both the product of

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a religious education and both of us

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have this fascination with uh The

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Stranger side I would say of the Bible

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like the devils and the angels and the

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nephilium and

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strange Mysteries of the Bibles of the

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Bible and uh The Book of Enoch and the

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so-called uh forbidden books of the

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Bible he has researched extensively but

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let's bring him in here and we're gonna

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pick his brain tonight all about aliens

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welcome Ken

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it is an honor and a pleasure Stephen

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yeah mine too I when we first talked I

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didn't know that you had written so many

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books you're like one of the most

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prolific authors in the in mystery land

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that I've ever seen right his

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therapeutic honestly because

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if I'm going to research something I'm

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going to go to ridiculous depths of

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detail and then my head is just stuffed

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it's as big as a gray alien's head you

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know and the only way to just make peace

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is just to put it all together and type

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it out and there goes a book and

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yes I got enough

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it's very cathartic after a ridiculous

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amount of research to go it's out there

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there it is I've typed it out and

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bringing it into the real world right

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put all those crazy puzzle pieces

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together because as it has been said

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very often is the best way to learn

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something is to teach it so if I'm going

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to tell you hey here's what I think

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about these subjects I better

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dissect and uh unpack and be able to

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explain in a way that would make sense

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to somebody who's outside of my head you

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so what what is it I always ask my

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guests this the first question that I

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have for you is what is it that got you

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started down all these crazy rabbit

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holes and and what has kept you here for

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that is a very interesting question

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because there are those moments in life

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where we go wait a minute there's just

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something Beyond this Veil right

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digits digits of age and where I was

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born we didn't have the Tooth Fairy okay

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we had the loratoncitos we had the the

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teeth mice

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and same function it's just you guys get

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a fairy we get Vermin you know

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that's the strange thing yeah

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so I mean obviously I was a little kid I

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was told yeah the little mice come and

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get your teeth and leave you money but

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then one day I found out that's not true

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it's actually just my parents doing it

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and I was devastated like I was like

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wait a minute I was told that this

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certain thing was a fact

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and now I'm being told I was deceived I

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mean you know childishly deceived it

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wasn't like

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because it was like wait a minute I had

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a certain view of reality and now it was

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shattered so what is the real truth

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told X and X is not the case so what is

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the K and that honestly

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and that's where I can uh pinpoint my

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um turning to true and honest skepticism

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right and I always make sure to explain

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a lot of people call them sub-septics

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but they're really just cynics whereas

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cynic will say or a skeptic will say I

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won't believe until where cynic will say

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I won't believe period right yeah but

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I'm just skeptic right like uh the

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Apostle Thomas who said I'm not going to

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believe until I see well okay

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that's true and honest skepticism

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because he was told by the others hey we

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saw it he's like well I want to see also

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and so uh thinking back to I don't know

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progressing a few years

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um going to the public library you know

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a lot of you youngsters don't know what

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that is it's like a building full of

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these things yeah I asked my

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six-year-old son he's like the whole

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building is filled with books dad like

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he you know it was interesting but I've

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been trying to take any drawers you pull

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out with the index cards yeah yeah I had

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to explain to him not everything is on

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the internet son sometimes you have to

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go somewhere to look for information and

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I'm trying to teach him to do that more

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than just right click everything you

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and on top of it by the way I would have

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to ride my bicycle many many many many

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many many blocks to get there and back

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so guess what I got out and I got

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exercise wow who would have thunk it and

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as a kid that's a good thing to do I I

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can imagine your parents didn't mind you

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go into the library instead of staying

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out of trouble I did a lot of that when

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I was a kid and not just the local I

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went to the one that was closest to me

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and then like you I would get on my bike

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and go to the further ones to see what

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they had you know right

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so back in those days you know 11 11

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years old or so sixth grade I would

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always read the books about

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cryptozoology and aliens and UFOs and

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Witchcraft just anything

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land is Paranormal you know all those

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highlight books about the mysteries of

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the world and all this that's what

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really fascinated me

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and so it's no surprise that I'm kind of

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still at it and that's why for instance

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when it comes to the Bible that's why

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I'm mostly focused on guess what what I

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call systematic biblical paranormality

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yeah you've got your own I heard some of

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your talks and I thought it was so funny

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Ken was so confused by his own field of

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research we're not confused but like

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you've had your own sort of slant and

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field of research that you just invented

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your own term for it right

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paranormality right and one person that

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interviewed me he introduced me by

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saying I'm one of the leading voices in

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the field of systematic biblical

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paranormality and I said

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he voices when you're like the only one

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yeah and so the the study began for you

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of of biblical things but eventually or

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you had an interest though in Aliens and

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cryptos as well yeah yeah so your recent

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book you really delve into the sort of

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cultural phenomenon known as the gray

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it's a few years old but regardless

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um you know

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it's interesting because I mean I can't

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say I've kept up with the field ever

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since I was in sixth grade definitely

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not and and all the newer modern guys

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don't really interest me because there's

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a lot of really well researched people

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who are dealing with them so I kind of

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you know I'll let them deal with the New

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Kids on the Block uh so generally when I

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set out to write a book just like any

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author you set up parameters right I'm

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going to write about this I'm not going

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to go beyond that because that would be

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out of scope or too much or out of

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context so you set up parameters I'm

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going to write about this and there you

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uh so I call that like a rifle approach

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one bullet nice little hole in the front

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maybe a mess in the back but with this

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book it was more like a shotgun approach

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I just went in every possible Direction

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I could go and it was so one of the

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things I wanted to start with here like

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I mentioned to you as we just doing this

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show is is to think

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categorically or

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systematically about

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what kind of phenomena are we even

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talking about because if we start a

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discussion about aliens or UFOs

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without really stopping to Define our

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terms and understand the categories of

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phenomena we're dealing with it's really

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easy to just make a big old mess of

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things and you'll have people meaning

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different things by those terms so if we

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could attempt to uh oh well when I say

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aliens I mean intelligent life forms

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from other planets or solar systems

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biological organic right and so that's

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been one of the traditional definitions

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but of course others say well

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um because first aliens

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claimed that they were from our sort of

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the system and then we started exploring

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our solar system and they're like yeah

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there doesn't seem to be nothing here

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well oh no we're actually from further

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away we're from another galaxy then we

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started getting Peaks at other galaxies

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and saying yeah I'm not sure that

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biological life could exist there and

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finally they keep retreating to what

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what we're actually From Another

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Dimension or we're actually from Another

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Universe so it's conveniently

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inaccessible to you humans

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after you've started figuring out we're

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not where we said we were now we're yeah

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they're early contactees they would say

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they were from Saturn or Venus which we

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later would find out there's no way they

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were from Saturn or Venus that doesn't

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make sense and then you're right later

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it became we're from another star system

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right so they keep getting further and

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further away until now they're just

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inaccessible they're just beyond our

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capability to explore right

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so that's one thing I wanted to see if

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we could screen share and I would just

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go over some of the uh issues of

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category

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yeah you've got like

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Ken is a real stickler for information

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but I love that about him from the

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presentations and the talks that I have

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seen of his he likes to categorize and

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you know make sure everybody is on the

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same page with uh with the definition

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because you're right some people would

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say alien and they really mean a whole

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range of things they could mean some

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kind of Spiritual interdimensional

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Beings organic beings in you know time

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travelers sometimes this term alien is

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used with the two broader brush I agree

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so I'm going to see if we can manage to

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start the screen share yeah here I'm

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going to add that right now

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let me know when it's up because

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obviously when I'm looking at my slides

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I can't see the video it's it's up

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shared on the screen right now we have a

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screen that says aliens and then the

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arrow aliens and UFOs and UFOs to aliens

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yeah right so this is a basic concept

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that there's

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if I say let's talk about aliens and

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UFOs I might be making a big old mess

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because those two phenomena are main

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categories they're not necessarily

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related because there's people who claim

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to have experience with aliens but never

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seen a UFO and there's people who say

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they've seen UFOs but never had an

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experience with an alien so that alone

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lets you know that those can be two

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completely different categories right

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and yeah there is a third

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slightly subcategory where people

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playing well I've had experience with

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both okay so then that's a different

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category altogether yeah

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so then I'm gonna use the slide let me

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see if that uh can you see that now yeah

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now we have an alien craft UFOs Lots

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right okay so the category of UFO and I

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nowadays we would say UAV or UAP or

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whatever I still say UFO I I don't care

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what the CIA wants to call it

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so then we're looking at that's a main

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category under which we can

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sub-categorize some would say Well

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they're actual alien craft and if that's

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the case then there's a sub subcategory

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that it could be a Nuts and Bolts

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three-dimensional object or it may be

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energy or is there some kind of morphing

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thing okay uh when people say UFOs it

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might actually be an atmospheric

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phenomena like clouds of ball lightning

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it could be just aircraft Birds balloons

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satellites it could be just straight up

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hoaxes or maybe secret government Tech

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which you can see gets us back to the

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aircraft issue and I mean that's just

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very

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mundane commonly known of course people

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start reporting seeing black triangular

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UFOs and then a little bit later we've

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uh find out about this stealth fire and

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a bomber for instance so okay that's

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just very

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uh brief as far as subcategories no I

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like this this actually makes a lot of

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sense because UFOs can be a lot of

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things and you're right I got this if

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they're alien craft there's a

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subcategory and they could be what

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you're saying here atmospheric clouds

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ball lightning aircraft Birds balloons

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satellite hoaxes or the big one for me

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is secret government Tech but you're

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right we have all these categories and

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again you're correct in pointing out

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that when people use the word UFO it's a

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pretty broad term it could mean all

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um and then likewise under the main

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category aliens well maybe the claim is

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that they come from within our universe

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as we just mentioned our solar system or

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even the outer reaches of space of our

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known universe

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or it could be from alternate realities

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multiverses other dimensions that are

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part of our universe or maybe Spirits

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Angelic demonic Realm

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or maybe they're uh that claim to be by

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organisms much like we are or just

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slightly different in terms of our

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physical makeup

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and um you see that I wrote their

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Spirits or Angels or demons again that

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would be more like a spirit realm type

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of thing or it could be straight up

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government Ops that might be something

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interesting to get into because I have

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some examples of that or just a straight

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up hope you know so again what do we

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mean you're saying alien I'm saying

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alien what do we actually mean what we

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say that term could be various things

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and then uh there's the issue of The

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Human Experience

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because when some people claim that

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their experiences maybe they had a dream

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maybe it was a hallucination

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maybe it was hypnotic suggestion or an

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actual close encounter and that's why we

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end up with all these concepts of

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experiences about teas teas and

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channelers

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so

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yeah we can uh if you want we can get

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into why I use the term um

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Shades of Gray aliens but that's

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basically it as far as just the taste of

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how to start breaking down this

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phenomena into understandable

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and and categorizable uh things that we

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can then unpack and say okay I'm

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actually talking about this subcategory

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when I say this I'm talking about that

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sure and and I think you're right to

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separate so many because it's a complex

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problem and a complex mystery what are

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these things and I've always found that

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if you have a really complex problem the

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best thing to do is to break it down is

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a smaller manageable bits right

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but you've done extensive research into

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the gray aliens specifically right

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because that seems to be when a typical

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person says talks about aliens that's

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generally the image that people conjure

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up in their mind correct and part of the

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issue by the way with that book title 50

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Shades of Gray aliens is is it g-r-a-y

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or g-i-e-y I had to decide by the way

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does that matter isn't that both just

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the spelling of the word gray it is but

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uh from what I recall the E is more

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preferred by the Brits don't you know

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well they always gotta change things

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right because we're stupid Americans so

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they have to have their own spelling and

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things

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true but they would say that about North

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Americans but um so you might recall

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that Whitley strieber

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refers to he doesn't say aliens he says

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visitors or he says Grays right or

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others he says a lot too yeah

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but if you're if you can recall the

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cover of his book communion that gray

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alien looking thing

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is it Greg

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oh

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it's more like a weird can color you

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know so I asked him well why is that if

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you're constantly talking about grays

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he had that painting commission so I

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said why isn't that one great and he

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just said he doesn't know that's what he

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saw

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uh so yeah I would say Grays are

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definitely the poster child of the this

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phenomena of whatever they are from

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wherever they are definitely just to

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remind my audience I'm going to share

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that

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know his book and what an alien looks

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like maybe a large part of the cultural

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phenomenon of this stuff comes from just

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his book being so influential

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well I'll tell you a little story about

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reading that book so I would go to this

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local coffee shop where you could just

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go pick up a book off the shelf read it

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while you were there and then put it

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back

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and so I was reading communion and one

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night I was reading in there how he's

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talking about that symbolism common

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to uh abductees or triangles and Eagles

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okay

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I got home that night and I looked at

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the bottle of the uh Ginger soda that

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was my favorite back then and guess what

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was on it that I'd never noticed before

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it's an eagle within a triangle

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oh that's a little bizarre yeah I'm just

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saying that's what happened I was like

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so did you get any any uh insight into

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why they're both called the gray aliens

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and usually depicted as gray is it just

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because of witness testimony always

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saying they had gray skin or usually

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saying they had gray skin or

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well I mean really you'd probably go

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back to what were described as little

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gray uh Little Green Men

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and somehow it just changed too that

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they were hand colored or gray or uh

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really thin skin that was almost

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see-through

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but now what what

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I'm going to go back to screen sharing

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and we'll actually get into that part of

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it then because

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um sure yeah and I appreciate you

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bringing a whole presentation here I

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wasn't expecting that but that's great

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it's always great to have something to

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share for the audience they I'm always

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getting my balls busted because I don't

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do enough slides Ken I gotta learn to do

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PowerPoint better people like the slides

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man so when I started wondering is yeah

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why have those become the poster child

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and

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essentially I don't know how I hit upon

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it but the second I started researching

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that I instantly found the answer

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in the late 1800s and then I just moved

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forward in time so let me show you this

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okay H.G Wells wrote a article or an

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essay called The Man of the Year million

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1893 he wrote that and these are

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illustrations based on his depiction now

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what he was talking sorry I didn't share

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it yeah this I remember I remember doing

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some of my own research and finding this

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to be one of the original

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sort of archetypes that may have started

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it all right but there's something very

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very important is that H.D Wells was not

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talking about aliens he was imagining

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what are human beings going to look like

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a million yeah this book is about time

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travelers really yeah well this was an

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essay

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so what he was saying is in the distant

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future

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a Machinery right

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um technology was going to be doing so

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much with us we wouldn't really need

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robust bodies anymore so our bodies

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would kind of be shrively and you know

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puny

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uh but then coincidentally is what many

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of the gray aliens look like all spindly

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and exactly

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right that's the explanation many people

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give is that they live in a super

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technological society and they don't

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need to be as physical as we do or have

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in the past

552
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:33,720
yeah and so then based on like

553
00:25:37,909 --> 00:25:35,760
malthusian or probably lamarchian

554
00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:37,919
Evolution that was popular in the late

555
00:25:42,169 --> 00:25:40,559
1800s he figured the more intellectual

556
00:25:44,210 --> 00:25:42,179
the bigger the brain is so the bigger

557
00:25:46,730 --> 00:25:44,220
the brain the bigger the skull so there

558
00:25:49,549 --> 00:25:46,740
you got a big head and then uh

559
00:25:52,250 --> 00:25:49,559
diminutive features because he said you

560
00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:52,260
see how they're dunked in that fluid he

561
00:25:57,230 --> 00:25:54,720
said we wouldn't really bother consuming

562
00:25:59,810 --> 00:25:57,240
uh solid foods anymore we would dip into

563
00:26:02,269 --> 00:25:59,820
these fats of fluid and kind of absorb

564
00:26:04,490 --> 00:26:02,279
our nutrition so you wouldn't need big

565
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:04,500
mouths you would you know well that's

566
00:26:07,970 --> 00:26:06,000
interesting because that's another thing

567
00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:07,980
that people say about gray aliens is

568
00:26:12,409 --> 00:26:09,779
that they absorb I've heard many many

569
00:26:14,029 --> 00:26:12,419
references that they absorb nutrients

570
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:14,039
through their skin people claim it's

571
00:26:18,350 --> 00:26:16,080
adrenochrome or something or they

572
00:26:21,049 --> 00:26:18,360
harvest it must be rabbit hole right

573
00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:21,059
there let me tell you about it yeah you

574
00:26:24,110 --> 00:26:22,440
know what let me I'm going to throw this

575
00:26:27,649 --> 00:26:24,120
in um

576
00:26:30,830 --> 00:26:27,659
I wrote a book reviewing Stephen King's

577
00:26:32,690 --> 00:26:30,840
Story it you know like Pennywise and I

578
00:26:36,350 --> 00:26:32,700
have an entire chapter

579
00:26:39,529 --> 00:26:36,360
about how he and other fictional writers

580
00:26:42,649 --> 00:26:39,539
or alleged fiction are actually telling

581
00:26:45,529 --> 00:26:42,659
us that aliens are here to absorb

582
00:26:48,529 --> 00:26:45,539
uh us as nutrition or a form of

583
00:26:52,130 --> 00:26:48,539
nutrition in terms of adrenal chroma all

584
00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:52,140
that stuff but yeah that's uh more of a

585
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:53,840
side note than anything

586
00:26:58,130 --> 00:26:56,640
yeah that's its own Rabbit Hole sure is

587
00:27:00,409 --> 00:26:58,140
where people are getting these ideas

588
00:27:02,990 --> 00:27:00,419
they're getting it's interesting how

589
00:27:05,149 --> 00:27:03,000
many of them come from this one essay of

590
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:05,159
H.G Wells because we have the big head

591
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:09,360
we have the the diminutive stature and

592
00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:12,000
and lack of physicality and we also have

593
00:27:19,070 --> 00:27:15,720
this idea that they absorb nutrients in

594
00:27:20,570 --> 00:27:19,080
a liquid form and not eat like us right

595
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:20,580
yeah interesting

596
00:27:27,130 --> 00:27:23,520
and so let's let's move forward a bit

597
00:27:30,830 --> 00:27:27,140
this is from a book titled the

598
00:27:32,690 --> 00:27:30,840
attitude it's really Aphrodite backwards

599
00:27:35,450 --> 00:27:32,700
okay it's hard to pronounce that's what

600
00:27:37,070 --> 00:27:35,460
the guy did it's Aphrodite backwards see

601
00:27:39,529 --> 00:27:37,080
I told you they like slides somebody's

602
00:27:41,090 --> 00:27:39,539
saying more slides oh okay well you look

603
00:27:43,549 --> 00:27:41,100
at I

604
00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:43,559
and so the way that these beings are

605
00:27:48,890 --> 00:27:45,240
depicted again it's a book of fiction

606
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:48,900
but less than five feet in height skin

607
00:27:53,570 --> 00:27:50,880
the color of light blue putty his

608
00:27:54,649 --> 00:27:53,580
forehead extended and an unbroken plane

609
00:27:57,710 --> 00:27:54,659
from the

610
00:28:01,490 --> 00:27:57,720
Crown to cheekbone and the chubby teeth

611
00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:01,500
of an abortive nose without nostrils

612
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:04,080
form a short projection there was no

613
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:07,679
semblance of an eye or there were no

614
00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:09,600
sockets so again

615
00:28:13,130 --> 00:28:11,279
very great anything like with the

616
00:28:16,909 --> 00:28:13,140
exception of the eyes this is what's

617
00:28:18,289 --> 00:28:16,919
being um described of these beings okay

618
00:28:20,690 --> 00:28:18,299
let's

619
00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:20,700
progress forward so I should explain

620
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:24,179
what I did is I looked into the Realms

621
00:28:29,090 --> 00:28:27,600
of the golden era of sci-fi fiction and

622
00:28:31,070 --> 00:28:29,100
comic book

623
00:28:33,169 --> 00:28:31,080
and to see what kind of stories that

624
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,179
they were telling us because you go from

625
00:28:37,250 --> 00:28:35,520
somebody writing a speculative essay

626
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:37,260
like H.G Wells

627
00:28:40,669 --> 00:28:39,600
who then ends up writing fiction about

628
00:28:44,450 --> 00:28:40,679
it

629
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:44,460
they start making their own stories

630
00:28:49,850 --> 00:28:47,039
right so then this is an interesting oh

631
00:28:50,830 --> 00:28:49,860
yes Aleister Crowley's uh

632
00:28:55,070 --> 00:28:50,840
yeah

633
00:28:58,370 --> 00:28:55,080
1919 and Aleister Crowley is saying that

634
00:29:02,029 --> 00:28:58,380
he was in contact with this entity

635
00:29:04,930 --> 00:29:02,039
a lamb and if you notice it has very

636
00:29:08,390 --> 00:29:04,940
tiny eyes but right above it you can see

637
00:29:12,350 --> 00:29:08,400
sort of uh shades of what would become

638
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:12,360
the more almond shaped type huge right

639
00:29:17,450 --> 00:29:15,600
alien eyes that are so typical

640
00:29:20,510 --> 00:29:17,460
okay

641
00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:20,520
and this is a Starfire it's a

642
00:29:24,590 --> 00:29:22,980
publication of the typhonian Oto the

643
00:29:26,029 --> 00:29:24,600
order Temple the oriented so another

644
00:29:28,130 --> 00:29:26,039
occult group

645
00:29:31,850 --> 00:29:28,140
uh same kind of thing I mean here they

646
00:29:36,529 --> 00:29:31,860
are depicting what is in essence another

647
00:29:38,330 --> 00:29:36,539
great alien type big headed being yeah

648
00:29:41,630 --> 00:29:38,340
and I have often wondered if the big

649
00:29:43,850 --> 00:29:41,640
head is just our own belief that uh

650
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:43,860
aliens from other star systems would be

651
00:29:48,049 --> 00:29:46,080
worlds more intelligent than us and

652
00:29:51,049 --> 00:29:48,059
maybe that's why we imagine them with

653
00:29:53,210 --> 00:29:51,059
big heads well exactly that's what I was

654
00:29:56,330 --> 00:29:53,220
talking about in terms of Wells he was

655
00:29:59,330 --> 00:29:56,340
applying the popular evolution in The

656
00:30:01,610 --> 00:29:59,340
evolutionary theories of his day and

657
00:30:04,370 --> 00:30:01,620
saying that if the brain grows then the

658
00:30:06,769 --> 00:30:04,380
skull has to grow we know that's not the

659
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:06,779
case anymore but that was popular back

660
00:30:10,970 --> 00:30:09,120
in the late 1800s that's what would

661
00:30:15,529 --> 00:30:10,980
happen so then

662
00:30:19,850 --> 00:30:15,539
here you have uh Amazing Stories 1927

663
00:30:23,810 --> 00:30:19,860
the machine man of our Dacia okay so

664
00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:23,820
notice that this is a man

665
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:26,159
okay but look at him spindly little body

666
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:28,080
huge head right

667
00:30:32,269 --> 00:30:30,240
that's what we're tracking here

668
00:30:35,149 --> 00:30:32,279
is this concept

669
00:30:37,850 --> 00:30:35,159
because at one point in my research I

670
00:30:41,090 --> 00:30:37,860
ran across like four different people in

671
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:41,100
like three different circles who all

672
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:42,720
started saying the same thing and I'm

673
00:30:49,250 --> 00:30:45,600
sure we've all heard it which is that

674
00:30:52,730 --> 00:30:49,260
aliens are not really alien what they

675
00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:52,740
are is human beings visiting us from the

676
00:30:58,490 --> 00:30:55,200
future for the future that's another big

677
00:31:00,830 --> 00:30:58,500
explanation for the UFO phenomena I have

678
00:31:02,570 --> 00:31:00,840
a friend I have a friend Ken who is

679
00:31:04,490 --> 00:31:02,580
absolutely convinced that it's not

680
00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:04,500
aliens it's time travelers from the

681
00:31:09,230 --> 00:31:06,720
future and I'm not sure exactly why he's

682
00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:09,240
so adamant but he is adamant that's his

683
00:31:13,070 --> 00:31:11,039
theory they're time travelers from the

684
00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:13,080
future and he thinks that they're

685
00:31:16,850 --> 00:31:14,640
anthropologists

686
00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:16,860
that they're coming back in time to

687
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:20,220
study us at this point in history for

688
00:31:25,250 --> 00:31:22,320
some reason and then they go back and

689
00:31:29,169 --> 00:31:25,260
and they're more fully informed of you

690
00:31:32,570 --> 00:31:29,179
know their own history somehow right

691
00:31:36,169 --> 00:31:32,580
in theory but it could be true you know

692
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:36,179
anybody can plug in any type of theory

693
00:31:40,430 --> 00:31:37,679
other people say that they're coming

694
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:40,440
back to warn us about destroying the

695
00:31:44,330 --> 00:31:42,240
planet because in their future they're

696
00:31:47,149 --> 00:31:44,340
so polluted they want to fix it ahead of

697
00:31:49,130 --> 00:31:47,159
time or that their genetics have uh

698
00:31:50,990 --> 00:31:49,140
diminished so much that they're having

699
00:31:53,510 --> 00:31:51,000
mutational problems and they want to

700
00:31:56,450 --> 00:31:53,520
come back you know I mean whatever but

701
00:31:58,490 --> 00:31:56,460
but think back to H.G Wells where does

702
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:58,500
this idea come from

703
00:32:03,889 --> 00:32:01,919
the H.G Wells uh where do we get the

704
00:32:09,049 --> 00:32:03,899
idea that these beings are humans from

705
00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:12,529
here's another one Wonder Stories again

706
00:32:18,590 --> 00:32:15,840
the man who evolved not the alien the

707
00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:18,600
man and what is the man who evolved look

708
00:32:26,210 --> 00:32:22,880
like well there you go about to have a

709
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:26,220
ridiculously huge head so again we're

710
00:32:30,649 --> 00:32:28,559
tracking this concept of that Humanity

711
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:30,659
in the future is going to look like that

712
00:32:36,769 --> 00:32:32,880
and they're telling that story over and

713
00:32:39,049 --> 00:32:36,779
over and over ever since H.G Wells okay

714
00:32:40,850 --> 00:32:39,059
uh here's another one

715
00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:40,860
strange Adventures

716
00:32:44,990 --> 00:32:42,960
and

717
00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:45,000
look what is being said here one more

718
00:32:50,750 --> 00:32:48,059
jolt of my evolutionary Captain Comet

719
00:32:54,529 --> 00:32:50,760
and you'll be a giant bodyless brain

720
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:54,539
just like me yeah that does it reminds

721
00:32:59,409 --> 00:32:56,159
me of the leader from the Hulk Comics

722
00:33:04,490 --> 00:33:02,269
there is this concept in comics where

723
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:04,500
they they had some sort of device that

724
00:33:08,269 --> 00:33:06,000
could accelerate there was a character

725
00:33:10,430 --> 00:33:08,279
called the high evolutionary and he

726
00:33:12,649 --> 00:33:10,440
would take you know uh like monkeys and

727
00:33:15,049 --> 00:33:12,659
make an army out of them by accelerating

728
00:33:17,570 --> 00:33:15,059
their evolution or something this is a

729
00:33:20,330 --> 00:33:17,580
similar concept but this is a man

730
00:33:22,190 --> 00:33:20,340
turning into a future man that's right

731
00:33:24,590 --> 00:33:22,200
just so it happens to look like an alien

732
00:33:27,049 --> 00:33:24,600
yeah there you go you see it's the same

733
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:27,059
story just being repackaged and

734
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:29,519
repackaged and repackaged right

735
00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:34,559
uh now we go to here's two examples 1934

736
00:33:40,370 --> 00:33:38,399
If Tomorrow Comes A Tale of Two Worlds

737
00:33:44,330 --> 00:33:40,380
okay tomorrow looking into the future

738
00:33:47,810 --> 00:33:44,340
and guess what we see typical gray alien

739
00:33:49,330 --> 00:33:47,820
and then as we saw earlier at forgotten

740
00:33:52,430 --> 00:33:49,340
I had this in there

741
00:33:56,690 --> 00:33:52,440
1989 screamer with communion

742
00:33:59,509 --> 00:33:56,700
uh whatever those things might be to him

743
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:59,519
okay 1930

744
00:34:03,889 --> 00:34:00,960
um five

745
00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:03,899
Atlas all thinking so here's the concept

746
00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:07,200
of this being that is just all thinking

747
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:10,800
and so it has a huge brain and Ergo uh

748
00:34:14,990 --> 00:34:11,760
so

749
00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:15,000
okay nothing about aliens yet nothing I

750
00:34:21,230 --> 00:34:16,320
mean

751
00:34:24,349 --> 00:34:21,240
not thus far it's just all futuristic

752
00:34:27,409 --> 00:34:24,359
okay even The Wizard of Oz yeah this is

753
00:34:29,570 --> 00:34:27,419
this is one of my I I I don't know why

754
00:34:31,970 --> 00:34:29,580
but I love that scene of The Wizard of

755
00:34:34,190 --> 00:34:31,980
Oz of the illusion of the Great and

756
00:34:37,609 --> 00:34:34,200
Powerful eyes that he would project on

757
00:34:39,470 --> 00:34:37,619
onto smoke and uh believe it or not I

758
00:34:41,930 --> 00:34:39,480
played a lot with video projectors and

759
00:34:43,450 --> 00:34:41,940
smoke machines and and this is fun stuff

760
00:34:46,849 --> 00:34:43,460
to play with

761
00:34:48,409 --> 00:34:46,859
so then what is behind the curtain

762
00:34:50,690 --> 00:34:48,419
right

763
00:34:53,089 --> 00:34:50,700
normal man yeah

764
00:34:56,510 --> 00:34:53,099
and now let me uh throw in this little

765
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,520
uh factoid so if you watch the movie

766
00:35:01,550 --> 00:34:58,800
based on waitlist tree or the movie

767
00:35:03,710 --> 00:35:01,560
called communion and then if you watched

768
00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:03,720
Fire in the Sky

769
00:35:10,730 --> 00:35:07,020
right based on uh Travis Travis Walton

770
00:35:13,550 --> 00:35:10,740
Walton there's an interesting scene in

771
00:35:16,130 --> 00:35:13,560
both movies so in communion

772
00:35:20,810 --> 00:35:16,140
streamer is face to face with a gray

773
00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:20,820
alien and then the the bottom half of

774
00:35:27,890 --> 00:35:24,180
its face turns out to be a plate that is

775
00:35:31,130 --> 00:35:27,900
removed and behind it is some sort of I

776
00:35:32,810 --> 00:35:31,140
don't know slimy reptilian sectoid

777
00:35:34,430 --> 00:35:32,820
reptilian looking thing yeah I remember

778
00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:34,440
that right

779
00:35:39,950 --> 00:35:37,680
and so uh streamer character in that

780
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:39,960
movie says oh this is like one of those

781
00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:42,000
Russian dolls it's just layers and

782
00:35:45,650 --> 00:35:44,220
layers you're never actually show us who

783
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:45,660
you are right

784
00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:48,240
okay then and the Walton movie Fire in

785
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:51,960
the Sky he comes face to face alien but

786
00:35:56,690 --> 00:35:54,240
it turns out he realizes it's just a

787
00:35:57,829 --> 00:35:56,700
space suit

788
00:36:00,410 --> 00:35:57,839
okay

789
00:36:02,990 --> 00:36:00,420
so that tells us that this great alien

790
00:36:04,510 --> 00:36:03,000
look is not actually what it is it's not

791
00:36:07,370 --> 00:36:04,520
an actual being

792
00:36:09,710 --> 00:36:07,380
except I asked what the Wheatley

793
00:36:11,810 --> 00:36:09,720
Streeper about this and I asked Travis

794
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:11,820
Walton about this and they both told me

795
00:36:15,770 --> 00:36:13,440
the same thing that's just Hollywood

796
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:15,780
movie stuff they both said that was not

797
00:36:24,170 --> 00:36:22,310
interesting I mean there might be still

798
00:36:25,910 --> 00:36:24,180
something to it but I just wanted to

799
00:36:27,470 --> 00:36:25,920
throw that out there that I thought that

800
00:36:31,310 --> 00:36:27,480
was really interesting and very

801
00:36:33,589 --> 00:36:31,320
coincidental but they both said no we

802
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:33,599
didn't experience that

803
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:35,520
okay now

804
00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:38,160
and look at the title here

805
00:36:43,970 --> 00:36:39,540
um

806
00:36:46,730 --> 00:36:43,980
the World of Tomorrow so again we're

807
00:36:48,650 --> 00:36:46,740
looking at a future person and okay it

808
00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:48,660
has a regular type body but we're

809
00:36:55,550 --> 00:36:51,540
starting to see that that that's getting

810
00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:55,560
bigger you know that head's about to pop

811
00:37:04,670 --> 00:36:59,760
oh again same thing same story uh being

812
00:37:08,990 --> 00:37:04,680
told and retold even uh here's Superman

813
00:37:12,650 --> 00:37:09,000
um Jimmy Olsen and he's saying

814
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:12,660
do my bitty Superman or I'll turn my uh

815
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:15,119
Kryptonite Eyes On full power

816
00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:18,480
and then Superman's saying

817
00:37:23,390 --> 00:37:19,500
um

818
00:37:26,750 --> 00:37:23,400
I'm we act and with us super intelligent

819
00:37:28,130 --> 00:37:26,760
brain Jimmy was

820
00:37:30,530 --> 00:37:28,140
um

821
00:37:33,050 --> 00:37:30,540
has me at his Mercy

822
00:37:35,450 --> 00:37:33,060
sorry that is really super smart but

823
00:37:37,550 --> 00:37:35,460
look at Superman's saying that Jimmy

824
00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:37,560
became super intelligent so what does

825
00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:39,420
that mean that he's got a bigger natural

826
00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:42,420
mind so he's got a bigger head yeah and

827
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:45,839
he's developed extra capabilities

828
00:37:51,230 --> 00:37:48,000
right because now he's got these uh

829
00:37:54,250 --> 00:37:51,240
superpowers I know you're into uh

830
00:37:57,530 --> 00:37:54,260
the people that claim

831
00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:57,540
ERS Hey listen everybody needs a hobby

832
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:00,480
and mine is listening to people talk

833
00:38:06,290 --> 00:38:02,400
about their superpowers that they never

834
00:38:08,210 --> 00:38:06,300
prove they have okay so the bottom

835
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:08,220
corner there you see it says the Super

836
00:38:21,170 --> 00:38:16,609
himself is on and guess what it's

837
00:38:23,569 --> 00:38:21,180
Superman I said Batman wow yeah and look

838
00:38:25,690 --> 00:38:23,579
at that of the future so what is

839
00:38:28,670 --> 00:38:25,700
Superman of the future

840
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:28,680
big old head right

841
00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:31,680
well isn't there some evolutionary

842
00:38:36,349 --> 00:38:33,540
um evidence that that is the way that

843
00:38:37,730 --> 00:38:36,359
we're going larger Cranium larger brain

844
00:38:39,470 --> 00:38:37,740
I think I've read somewhere there is

845
00:38:40,910 --> 00:38:39,480
right there's some evidence that that's

846
00:38:49,310 --> 00:38:40,920
where we're headed

847
00:38:51,890 --> 00:38:49,320
I didn't even realize I did that see

848
00:38:54,109 --> 00:38:51,900
yeah well I don't know because like I

849
00:38:57,470 --> 00:38:54,119
said that was definitely a fashionable

850
00:38:58,250 --> 00:38:57,480
Theory back in the late 1800s

851
00:39:01,250 --> 00:38:58,260
um

852
00:39:03,530 --> 00:39:01,260
I know if you look at neanderthals they

853
00:39:06,109 --> 00:39:03,540
had bigger brains and bits therefore

854
00:39:08,569 --> 00:39:06,119
bigger heads so I'm not sure if that's

855
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:08,579
the way it works but I'm just saying

856
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:10,560
this is what the fiction writers were

857
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:12,720
playing off of constantly so now we have

858
00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:14,880
it's amazing how many examples you found

859
00:39:22,250 --> 00:39:18,540
of this big-headed human phenomenon yeah

860
00:39:25,069 --> 00:39:22,260
and it says Amma swell head physically

861
00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:25,079
and mentally right

862
00:39:30,589 --> 00:39:28,680
uh even Venom and well Venom actually is

863
00:39:32,530 --> 00:39:30,599
an alien period

864
00:39:35,329 --> 00:39:32,540
yeah

865
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:35,339
Spiderman are very gray alien like I

866
00:39:42,829 --> 00:39:37,760
mean look at those uh

867
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:42,839
mask the eyes are just gigantic right

868
00:39:49,010 --> 00:39:45,359
and here's the outer limits the visit

869
00:39:55,550 --> 00:39:51,170
future okay

870
00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:55,560
and same thing uh the year 3000

871
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,079
the man's coming back so it says a white

872
00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:00,480
Smock strange looking little little man

873
00:40:04,550 --> 00:40:02,400
by the way suddenly appears on every

874
00:40:06,050 --> 00:40:04,560
channel on every television set around

875
00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:06,060
the world he speaks his voices

876
00:40:09,530 --> 00:40:07,680
translated into the language of each

877
00:40:12,589 --> 00:40:09,540
country that man is broadcasting from

878
00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:12,599
the year 3000 A.D the people of today's

879
00:40:19,130 --> 00:40:14,640
world that's what we've been talking

880
00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:22,010
now we come to an interesting one I

881
00:40:30,730 --> 00:40:23,880
included this one because it struck me

882
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,410
and that was the twist at the end

883
00:40:37,849 --> 00:40:35,280
because it was all about artificial

884
00:40:40,190 --> 00:40:37,859
intelligence and robots and then at the

885
00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:40,200
end we get aliens which was okay now

886
00:40:45,230 --> 00:40:43,260
hold on that's exactly why I included

887
00:40:49,490 --> 00:40:45,240
this because when I watched that movie I

888
00:40:52,609 --> 00:40:49,500
go oh wow these are aliens but it turns

889
00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:52,619
out that what these are supposed to be

890
00:40:56,930 --> 00:40:54,200
is

891
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:56,940
silicon-based AI they're not supposed to

892
00:41:01,790 --> 00:40:59,040
be aliens oh you're right you're right

893
00:41:04,010 --> 00:41:01,800
it's been a while since I saw that no

894
00:41:07,310 --> 00:41:04,020
you don't get that in the movie

895
00:41:10,970 --> 00:41:07,320
this is just behind the scenes um

896
00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:10,980
even um Steven Spielberg describing that

897
00:41:18,410 --> 00:41:16,010
so I thought that was fascinating

898
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:18,420
because again we have a sort of very

899
00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:20,640
typical gray alien look when they're not

900
00:41:26,930 --> 00:41:22,740
supposed to be aliens at all they're

901
00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:28,910
um so now I'm gonna I'm gonna back out

902
00:41:36,109 --> 00:41:31,280
of this just to make a few statements so

903
00:41:37,849 --> 00:41:36,119
my point in all of this is at least from

904
00:41:39,890 --> 00:41:37,859
what we would call the sociological

905
00:41:43,609 --> 00:41:39,900
perspective

906
00:41:46,730 --> 00:41:43,619
what we have is a basic idea laid out by

907
00:41:48,410 --> 00:41:46,740
H.G Wells off of off of which many

908
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,420
people played and they told it and

909
00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:50,400
retolded and retold it which is all the

910
00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:52,880
same it's about humans from the future

911
00:41:57,950 --> 00:41:56,640
humans when they uh evolved millions of

912
00:41:58,970 --> 00:41:57,960
years into the future what they would

913
00:42:01,609 --> 00:41:58,980
look like

914
00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:01,619
and then I'm thinking possibly because

915
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:04,740
of the issue of how many times can you

916
00:42:11,630 --> 00:42:07,440
retell the same old story all of a

917
00:42:14,329 --> 00:42:11,640
sudden these uh comic book and sci-fi

918
00:42:15,890 --> 00:42:14,339
authors said you know what forget all

919
00:42:20,089 --> 00:42:15,900
that we're gonna

920
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:20,099
keep the prom the the basic core concept

921
00:42:23,150 --> 00:42:21,599
but we're just going to start claiming

922
00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:23,160
that they're aliens from another planet

923
00:42:28,130 --> 00:42:25,500
or another galaxy or another Universe

924
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:28,140
the dimension and that's all it takes to

925
00:42:33,710 --> 00:42:30,240
make the switch

926
00:42:36,589 --> 00:42:33,720
right so how could we freshen up this

927
00:42:38,569 --> 00:42:36,599
story it's just the same thing they're

928
00:42:40,970 --> 00:42:38,579
they're more advanced and that's why

929
00:42:43,550 --> 00:42:40,980
they look the way they do and they're

930
00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:43,560
from wherever they are they've had more

931
00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:45,599
time to evolve than we have or whatever

932
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:47,760
or they're coming from the future it's

933
00:42:51,790 --> 00:42:50,160
the same thing it's just now we're going

934
00:42:55,010 --> 00:42:51,800
to start claiming that their aliens

935
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:55,020
instead of just future humans that's all

936
00:43:01,550 --> 00:42:59,690
yeah interesting that there's so many

937
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:01,560
cultural references and I agree with you

938
00:43:06,410 --> 00:43:04,319
it might just be a case of a lazy writer

939
00:43:08,210 --> 00:43:06,420
looking around for what he could make

940
00:43:11,569 --> 00:43:08,220
his aliens look at and there's already

941
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:11,579
all of these precedents and culture that

942
00:43:15,770 --> 00:43:14,640
preceded the the idea that aliens look

943
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:15,780
like that

944
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:19,200
and and so they stole it and modified it

945
00:43:24,109 --> 00:43:21,359
for their for their own stories right

946
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:24,119
right because that's been my point I

947
00:43:29,390 --> 00:43:26,640
mean I just took us through like just

948
00:43:32,510 --> 00:43:29,400
over a Century's worth of examples from

949
00:43:34,849 --> 00:43:32,520
pop culture and and that's what they're

950
00:43:36,650 --> 00:43:34,859
saying is they were telling one story

951
00:43:38,809 --> 00:43:36,660
and they're still telling it they just

952
00:43:41,210 --> 00:43:38,819
switched the category of the characters

953
00:43:43,309 --> 00:43:41,220
that's pretty much it

954
00:43:44,329 --> 00:43:43,319
and then I was going to throw in some of

955
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:44,339
this stuff I thought would be

956
00:43:50,450 --> 00:43:47,760
interesting about how uh why referred to

957
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:50,460
pop culture or sci-fi or comic books

958
00:43:55,609 --> 00:43:52,079
when we're supposed to be dealing with a

959
00:43:58,670 --> 00:43:55,619
real life phenomena well there's a lot

960
00:44:00,849 --> 00:43:58,680
of reasons for that so one is the

961
00:44:03,950 --> 00:44:00,859
concept of um

962
00:44:05,870 --> 00:44:03,960
normative fiction which is sort of tied

963
00:44:08,809 --> 00:44:05,880
at the hip to what's known as predictive

964
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:08,819
programming which is when authors who

965
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:11,280
are allegedly writing fiction are

966
00:44:16,670 --> 00:44:12,960
actually pushing

967
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:16,680
a real life worldview philosophy type

968
00:44:21,530 --> 00:44:18,720
ideas but they're doing it under the

969
00:44:24,170 --> 00:44:21,540
guise of fiction so that your guard is

970
00:44:26,030 --> 00:44:24,180
that your intellectual guard is down and

971
00:44:27,890 --> 00:44:26,040
you're more willing to just absorb ideas

972
00:44:30,890 --> 00:44:27,900
because you're saying ah big deal it's

973
00:44:32,930 --> 00:44:30,900
just a movie whatever yeah but they're

974
00:44:34,250 --> 00:44:32,940
telling you things that they actually

975
00:44:36,050 --> 00:44:34,260
believe

976
00:44:40,329 --> 00:44:36,060
and then so if you look at something

977
00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:40,339
like this the image on the left was

978
00:44:45,950 --> 00:44:43,200
based on a description of an experience

979
00:44:48,050 --> 00:44:45,960
with an alien that somebody had

980
00:44:51,650 --> 00:44:48,060
but the one in the middle and the right

981
00:44:53,390 --> 00:44:51,660
are some of the Sci-Fi TV shows that

982
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:53,400
were around at the time and that's how

983
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:56,160
they depicted aliens so it doesn't go

984
00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:58,319
yeah I wonder which came first right

985
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:01,440
well yeah it doesn't take much to say

986
00:45:05,390 --> 00:45:03,119
well look

987
00:45:07,250 --> 00:45:05,400
um you know the cheesy Sci-Fi TV show

988
00:45:09,650 --> 00:45:07,260
and movie were depicting them in you

989
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:09,660
know old tiny type uniforms with this

990
00:45:15,890 --> 00:45:12,960
sash across the best and well then

991
00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:15,900
somebody finds that so impactful that

992
00:45:21,309 --> 00:45:19,560
they end up claiming or maybe even who

993
00:45:24,589 --> 00:45:21,319
knows what I don't know

994
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:24,599
hallucinating or Dreaming or had some

995
00:45:29,630 --> 00:45:26,880
kind of a illusion or delusion I don't

996
00:45:33,170 --> 00:45:29,640
know I'm just saying when you look at

997
00:45:35,329 --> 00:45:33,180
the historical context for the cultural

998
00:45:37,849 --> 00:45:35,339
context you find stuff like this or

999
00:45:38,510 --> 00:45:37,859
saying here

1000
00:45:41,150 --> 00:45:38,520
um

1001
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:41,160
there's one of the illustrations based

1002
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,160
on Barney and Betty Hill it's the same

1003
00:45:50,990 --> 00:45:46,560
thing it's one of these uniforms with a

1004
00:45:52,849 --> 00:45:51,000
stash across and also two other people

1005
00:45:54,650 --> 00:45:52,859
who claim to have had experiences with

1006
00:45:58,430 --> 00:45:54,660
aliens they're all describing what was

1007
00:46:01,010 --> 00:45:58,440
popular in pop culture in their day

1008
00:46:03,410 --> 00:46:01,020
same I mean it goes on and on Betty

1009
00:46:05,930 --> 00:46:03,420
Anderson right

1010
00:46:08,030 --> 00:46:05,940
um just so many of the depictions of

1011
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:08,040
what the aliens looked like back in that

1012
00:46:10,910 --> 00:46:09,119
day

1013
00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:10,920
basically you're going to be based on

1014
00:46:14,750 --> 00:46:12,780
whatever they were watching the movies

1015
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:14,760
and TV shows

1016
00:46:20,930 --> 00:46:18,000
and you know same thing work from you

1017
00:46:23,089 --> 00:46:20,940
got more from Orc in there yeah yeah

1018
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:23,099
when I was a little little kid I watched

1019
00:46:28,730 --> 00:46:25,680
that or I watched reruns of that on like

1020
00:46:30,290 --> 00:46:28,740
VHF I used to love that until it got to

1021
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:30,300
Jonathan Winters and that it was

1022
00:46:35,089 --> 00:46:31,520
terrible

1023
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:35,099
it got worse and worse

1024
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:39,119
yeah but yeah so like images underneath

1025
00:46:43,849 --> 00:46:41,520
are from TV shows and movies of the day

1026
00:46:46,010 --> 00:46:43,859
where they have these uniforms with an

1027
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:46,020
upside down triangle in the chest and

1028
00:46:51,710 --> 00:46:49,440
the two images above are supposed uh

1029
00:46:53,210 --> 00:46:51,720
actual experiences with aliens so I'm

1030
00:46:55,069 --> 00:46:53,220
saying well look

1031
00:46:57,050 --> 00:46:55,079
I don't know what actually happened I'm

1032
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:57,060
just saying it's just too much of a

1033
00:47:01,970 --> 00:46:59,760
coincidence that people are seeing this

1034
00:47:03,650 --> 00:47:01,980
stuff depicted in movies and TV shows

1035
00:47:04,970 --> 00:47:03,660
and they're claiming to have had a real

1036
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:04,980
experience

1037
00:47:10,250 --> 00:47:08,400
uh likewise with this from um the one on

1038
00:47:13,609 --> 00:47:10,260
the bottom obviously

1039
00:47:15,050 --> 00:47:13,619
from to served man uh Twilight Zone and

1040
00:47:17,329 --> 00:47:15,060
honestly I don't recall what the other

1041
00:47:19,250 --> 00:47:17,339
one is but same kind of thing with this

1042
00:47:23,630 --> 00:47:19,260
robe uh with the

1043
00:47:27,410 --> 00:47:26,390
um this also is from Betty and Barney

1044
00:47:28,910 --> 00:47:27,420
Hill

1045
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:28,920
so

1046
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:32,880
it's the um illustrations of what they

1047
00:47:35,870 --> 00:47:35,040
claimed they saw

1048
00:47:38,030 --> 00:47:35,880
um

1049
00:47:41,890 --> 00:47:38,040
compared to the the way that the movie

1050
00:47:44,809 --> 00:47:41,900
depicted them you know kind of

1051
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:44,819
I appreciate that and people are saying

1052
00:47:51,050 --> 00:47:47,520
you have a great presentation already so

1053
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:51,060
that's good news yeah I I love to wonder

1054
00:47:54,770 --> 00:47:52,800
about this like

1055
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:54,780
you know it's a chicken and egg thing

1056
00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:57,839
like which came first the abductions uh

1057
00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:00,000
of these people who really saw these

1058
00:48:03,710 --> 00:48:02,400
things or the TV shows that depicted

1059
00:48:07,069 --> 00:48:03,720
them and then

1060
00:48:09,290 --> 00:48:07,079
they filled in the blanks maybe of of uh

1061
00:48:12,109 --> 00:48:09,300
strange experience through the through

1062
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:12,119
their own cultural lens you know because

1063
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:14,160
you you know this better than most but

1064
00:48:19,010 --> 00:48:16,319
you know back in the day before aliens

1065
00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:19,020
were talked about when people had these

1066
00:48:23,930 --> 00:48:21,960
sort of experiences it was a devil or it

1067
00:48:24,770 --> 00:48:23,940
was an angel or a fairy folk or

1068
00:48:27,470 --> 00:48:24,780
something

1069
00:48:30,170 --> 00:48:27,480
and eventually that changed to alien for

1070
00:48:32,329 --> 00:48:30,180
these same kinds oh no that's something

1071
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:32,339
I would really like to get into in just

1072
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:35,280
a minute here sure sorry I don't mean to

1073
00:48:39,770 --> 00:48:37,680
get ahead of you no it's okay actually

1074
00:48:41,390 --> 00:48:39,780
I'm glad because that we're thinking in

1075
00:48:42,770 --> 00:48:41,400
the same direction so that that's

1076
00:48:45,410 --> 00:48:42,780
important

1077
00:48:46,609 --> 00:48:45,420
uh this is just an early attempt at what

1078
00:48:49,790 --> 00:48:46,619
we would call

1079
00:48:51,470 --> 00:48:49,800
Photoshop hoax from 1950 I mean

1080
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:51,480
obviously remember this photo do you

1081
00:48:54,349 --> 00:48:53,040
know how many people have sent me that

1082
00:48:56,510 --> 00:48:54,359
photo

1083
00:48:58,730 --> 00:48:56,520
and asked me what I thought about it and

1084
00:49:00,770 --> 00:48:58,740
then I have to tell them the origins of

1085
00:49:02,930 --> 00:49:00,780
it you know

1086
00:49:04,550 --> 00:49:02,940
yeah so yeah that's why I say it's an

1087
00:49:07,870 --> 00:49:04,560
early form of Photoshop because

1088
00:49:10,430 --> 00:49:07,880
obviously you can see from the uh

1089
00:49:13,250 --> 00:49:10,440
original photo to a slightly different

1090
00:49:15,050 --> 00:49:13,260
angle and someone just slapped in the

1091
00:49:16,970 --> 00:49:15,060
alien looking thing on there and same

1092
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:16,980
thing with this one

1093
00:49:22,430 --> 00:49:19,200
you know it's just a couple guys with an

1094
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:22,440
old tiny baby carriage and somebody just

1095
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:24,240
manipulate the image I mean this has

1096
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:27,359
been going on for a long long time

1097
00:49:32,450 --> 00:49:30,480
yeah it's just me but Photoshop made

1098
00:49:36,770 --> 00:49:32,460
these things a lot easier and yesterday

1099
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:36,780
we did a show on the coming swarm that's

1100
00:49:42,589 --> 00:49:38,400
going to destroy it's going to be

1101
00:49:46,609 --> 00:49:42,599
terrible can this uh AI image generators

1102
00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:46,619
people just did a hoax with AI generated

1103
00:49:50,930 --> 00:49:48,800
images claiming they were from Roswell

1104
00:49:52,730 --> 00:49:50,940
1947. we were pretty quickly

1105
00:49:54,650 --> 00:49:52,740
definitively proved that they were from

1106
00:49:57,410 --> 00:49:54,660
an AI image generator

1107
00:49:59,150 --> 00:49:57,420
so it used to be people really had to

1108
00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:59,160
work to make these fakes you know

1109
00:50:04,010 --> 00:50:01,680
cutting things out putting on a on a

1110
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:04,020
slide on a you know negative and then

1111
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:07,440
redevelop the picture with Photoshop it

1112
00:50:11,329 --> 00:50:09,599
got worse and now with these AI image

1113
00:50:13,309 --> 00:50:11,339
generators it's going to be terrible

1114
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:13,319
there's going to be so many fake photos

1115
00:50:17,870 --> 00:50:15,359
flooding the internet now

1116
00:50:20,030 --> 00:50:17,880
it's just so easy you just put in it's

1117
00:50:22,730 --> 00:50:20,040
it is fun you just put in a phrase you

1118
00:50:24,770 --> 00:50:22,740
could put in like alien crash landing in

1119
00:50:29,809 --> 00:50:24,780
a desert and it'll show you a bunch of

1120
00:50:35,569 --> 00:50:31,670
so now

1121
00:50:37,730 --> 00:50:35,579
back to the point you were making

1122
00:50:40,130 --> 00:50:37,740
so if we had

1123
00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:40,140
if we had to just lay it out

1124
00:50:45,650 --> 00:50:42,960
what do I think I mean this was just one

1125
00:50:48,109 --> 00:50:45,660
of the perspectives I had which is how

1126
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:48,119
come you're able to so clearly trace

1127
00:50:54,589 --> 00:50:50,880
this as an idea sociologically through

1128
00:50:55,549 --> 00:50:54,599
pop culture and all of that okay but now

1129
00:50:58,849 --> 00:50:55,559
um

1130
00:51:00,109 --> 00:50:58,859
I would say if you were to ask me do I

1131
00:51:03,730 --> 00:51:00,119
think that there are quote unquote

1132
00:51:06,890 --> 00:51:03,740
aliens from other planets or galaxies or

1133
00:51:09,170 --> 00:51:06,900
Dimensions or universes I'd say you know

1134
00:51:11,569 --> 00:51:09,180
for me that's like way way down the line

1135
00:51:13,849 --> 00:51:11,579
as an option okay let's just let's set

1136
00:51:16,430 --> 00:51:13,859
that way way down the line because there

1137
00:51:18,890 --> 00:51:16,440
are more mundane things in the here and

1138
00:51:20,030 --> 00:51:18,900
now that we can actually verify

1139
00:51:22,190 --> 00:51:20,040
first

1140
00:51:24,650 --> 00:51:22,200
which is like we talked about earlier

1141
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:24,660
some of it is straight up government Ops

1142
00:51:29,329 --> 00:51:27,119
everybody knows about that it's it's no

1143
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:29,339
great conspiracy it's just

1144
00:51:34,190 --> 00:51:32,400
uh well-known part of it is maybe what

1145
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,200
we would call accidental again like

1146
00:51:37,790 --> 00:51:36,000
seeing the stealth bomber and fighter

1147
00:51:41,870 --> 00:51:37,800
without knowing what they were

1148
00:51:43,970 --> 00:51:41,880
and then we get into another issue which

1149
00:51:45,049 --> 00:51:43,980
is I'll give you an example of Whitley

1150
00:51:48,589 --> 00:51:45,059
strieber

1151
00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:48,599
so as I would listen to him

1152
00:51:52,210 --> 00:51:50,400
I would notice every now and then he

1153
00:51:55,609 --> 00:51:52,220
would mention his family

1154
00:51:57,650 --> 00:51:55,619
relationships with the CIA and Military

1155
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:57,660
I'm like okay you know whatever I'm

1156
00:51:59,950 --> 00:51:59,040
gonna just lock that away in the back of

1157
00:52:03,410 --> 00:51:59,960
my head

1158
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:03,420
I noticed that one time too yeah and and

1159
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:05,520
I'm like okay that may turn into

1160
00:52:11,210 --> 00:52:07,440
something maybe not and then one day he

1161
00:52:14,089 --> 00:52:11,220
does a whole talk straight up saying hey

1162
00:52:15,410 --> 00:52:14,099
I was a victim of MK Ultra mind control

1163
00:52:18,650 --> 00:52:15,420
program

1164
00:52:20,750 --> 00:52:18,660
now was he I have no idea but I'm just

1165
00:52:24,349 --> 00:52:20,760
saying that's what he says

1166
00:52:26,690 --> 00:52:24,359
and so that makes a lot more sense and

1167
00:52:28,370 --> 00:52:26,700
it's a lot more commonsensical and a lot

1168
00:52:30,589 --> 00:52:28,380
more mundane

1169
00:52:32,930 --> 00:52:30,599
than that he's having experiences with

1170
00:52:35,089 --> 00:52:32,940
whatever they are right so so let me

1171
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:35,099
unpack a little bit when we're talking

1172
00:52:39,950 --> 00:52:36,720
about MK

1173
00:52:43,130 --> 00:52:39,960
MK was actually a slew of experiments

1174
00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:43,140
Ultra in particular was about

1175
00:52:49,370 --> 00:52:45,599
um mind control so what he was he's

1176
00:52:51,890 --> 00:52:49,380
claiming is that these CIA Spooks would

1177
00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:51,900
literally run experiments on and they

1178
00:52:56,510 --> 00:52:54,720
try to mind control him so now when I

1179
00:53:00,349 --> 00:52:56,520
thought about some of the tales he's

1180
00:53:02,329 --> 00:53:00,359
told such as this he says well at one

1181
00:53:03,890 --> 00:53:02,339
point the visitors recognized that he

1182
00:53:06,349 --> 00:53:03,900
was really freaked out by their huge

1183
00:53:08,329 --> 00:53:06,359
eyes and so one of them appeared to him

1184
00:53:11,569 --> 00:53:08,339
one day wearing some of those like

1185
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:11,579
ridiculously large plastic sunglasses

1186
00:53:18,349 --> 00:53:12,960
that you would buy like at the state

1187
00:53:23,809 --> 00:53:20,930
what would seem more to be the case that

1188
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:23,819
these ultra-dimensional beings did that

1189
00:53:29,930 --> 00:53:26,640
or that some jerk at the CIA had this

1190
00:53:31,849 --> 00:53:29,940
guy hypnotized and put on those

1191
00:53:34,190 --> 00:53:31,859
ridiculous glasses to make him think

1192
00:53:36,589 --> 00:53:34,200
that he was seeing something that really

1193
00:53:40,370 --> 00:53:36,599
not there right

1194
00:53:42,170 --> 00:53:40,380
or then he talks about how yes he

1195
00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:42,180
recognizes he was

1196
00:53:49,010 --> 00:53:45,119
a victim of Mind Control experimentation

1197
00:53:50,990 --> 00:53:49,020
but he does still know for a fact that

1198
00:53:53,870 --> 00:53:51,000
he's been having experiences with

1199
00:53:55,970 --> 00:53:53,880
whatever they are from wherever they are

1200
00:53:59,390 --> 00:53:55,980
because this is what he actually said

1201
00:54:00,770 --> 00:53:59,400
because people he knew who ran into him

1202
00:54:05,210 --> 00:54:00,780
on the days where he had those

1203
00:54:07,329 --> 00:54:05,220
experiences noted that he was agitated

1204
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:07,339
I'm like okay

1205
00:54:11,690 --> 00:54:10,079
okay if you have an experience with

1206
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:11,700
whatever they are from wherever they are

1207
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:13,440
I could see how you'd end up agitated

1208
00:54:18,470 --> 00:54:16,079
but I could also see it in the vegetated

1209
00:54:23,290 --> 00:54:18,480
if some jerks from the CIA were messing

1210
00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:25,970
let me address something real quickly Mr

1211
00:54:30,170 --> 00:54:28,559
D.B Cooper asks as actual citizens if

1212
00:54:32,210 --> 00:54:30,180
you ever accept the cash payments from

1213
00:54:34,069 --> 00:54:32,220
secure team 10 when his channel was

1214
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:34,079
called Lions ground investigate that

1215
00:54:40,430 --> 00:54:37,200
Steve boom and uh here's what I'm aware

1216
00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:40,440
of I'm aware that uh I had a

1217
00:54:43,910 --> 00:54:42,480
conversation with uh with Heathcliff

1218
00:54:45,770 --> 00:54:43,920
about this to the best of my

1219
00:54:46,970 --> 00:54:45,780
recollection and I'll check back in with

1220
00:54:51,650 --> 00:54:46,980
him

1221
00:54:54,890 --> 00:54:51,660
PayPal donations

1222
00:54:57,470 --> 00:54:54,900
and he I believe his perception was that

1223
00:55:00,410 --> 00:54:57,480
those donations were a sort of bribe to

1224
00:55:02,510 --> 00:55:00,420
get him to shut up and be nice about all

1225
00:55:04,730 --> 00:55:02,520
the fakes and frauds that he was pushing

1226
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:04,740
the secure team was pushing into no

1227
00:55:09,410 --> 00:55:07,680
longer cover him but he did keep the

1228
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:09,420
money and then he kept covering him

1229
00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:11,760
that's my best recollection of it but

1230
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:14,220
thank you Mr D.B Cooper I will certainly

1231
00:55:21,470 --> 00:55:18,000
check in with him and see if I can get

1232
00:55:24,410 --> 00:55:21,480
further clarification of of that and uh

1233
00:55:29,690 --> 00:55:24,420
thank you for your your kindness uh a

1234
00:55:31,250 --> 00:55:29,700
hundred Mexican thank you so you you I

1235
00:55:32,450 --> 00:55:31,260
had a chance to interview Whitley

1236
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,460
strieber

1237
00:55:36,589 --> 00:55:34,559
and I was a little star struck I will

1238
00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:36,599
admit because I grew up with that book

1239
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:39,599
and and I had just re-watched the movie

1240
00:55:45,170 --> 00:55:41,760
coincidentally with Christopher Walken

1241
00:55:49,130 --> 00:55:45,180
at my cabin because the power was out

1242
00:55:50,750 --> 00:55:49,140
and uh you know I had the DVD around or

1243
00:55:53,630 --> 00:55:50,760
something and I watched it on the laptop

1244
00:55:56,569 --> 00:55:53,640
and then some weird coincidence he

1245
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:56,579
happened to contact me about a guest

1246
00:56:00,589 --> 00:55:58,559
that was on my show that he had also had

1247
00:56:02,510 --> 00:56:00,599
some interaction with or something he

1248
00:56:04,250 --> 00:56:02,520
wanted to clarify something that she was

1249
00:56:05,809 --> 00:56:04,260
saying so I asked him for an interview

1250
00:56:08,690 --> 00:56:05,819
and we did the interview and by the way

1251
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:08,700
I'm gonna do another one with him so you

1252
00:56:13,250 --> 00:56:10,160
know if you have any questions you can

1253
00:56:14,930 --> 00:56:13,260
certainly give them to me off air I I've

1254
00:56:18,589 --> 00:56:14,940
always been fascinated with him but

1255
00:56:22,130 --> 00:56:18,599
equally cautious because before he was

1256
00:56:23,870 --> 00:56:22,140
he made huge you know cultural impact

1257
00:56:25,790 --> 00:56:23,880
with this communion book he was a

1258
00:56:27,950 --> 00:56:25,800
fiction writer and to some extent he

1259
00:56:30,730 --> 00:56:27,960
still is I believe you know he wrote The

1260
00:56:33,950 --> 00:56:30,740
Howling and a bunch of different horror

1261
00:56:36,170 --> 00:56:33,960
novels that were uh got Hollywood deals

1262
00:56:40,730 --> 00:56:36,180
even so I've always been a little

1263
00:56:42,170 --> 00:56:40,740
cautious of him and also I had what can

1264
00:56:45,049 --> 00:56:42,180
only be described as a similar

1265
00:56:47,329 --> 00:56:45,059
experience to him on hallucinogens once

1266
00:56:48,650 --> 00:56:47,339
I thought I was seeing beings I thought

1267
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:48,660
they were talking at me I thought I was

1268
00:56:51,410 --> 00:56:50,640
seeing multiple species of beings I

1269
00:56:53,690 --> 00:56:51,420
didn't know if they were

1270
00:56:56,690 --> 00:56:53,700
interdimensional and after that

1271
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:56,700
experience I went maybe somebody dosed

1272
00:56:59,410 --> 00:56:58,079
him you know

1273
00:57:05,030 --> 00:56:59,420
or

1274
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:05,040
DMT levels which could cause that

1275
00:57:08,690 --> 00:57:07,200
naturally somehow or I mean there's a

1276
00:57:11,809 --> 00:57:08,700
lot more explanations but it is

1277
00:57:14,329 --> 00:57:11,819
interesting that he never he never said

1278
00:57:16,490 --> 00:57:14,339
these were aliens visiting me from

1279
00:57:18,109 --> 00:57:16,500
another planet he just talked about the

1280
00:57:20,510 --> 00:57:18,119
experiences that he had and he didn't

1281
00:57:23,569 --> 00:57:20,520
know he called him the others he called

1282
00:57:25,730 --> 00:57:23,579
them the visitors you know could they be

1283
00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:25,740
interdimensional could they be just he

1284
00:57:30,109 --> 00:57:27,599
even admits they could all have been a

1285
00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:30,119
product of his own mind he's he doesn't

1286
00:57:36,290 --> 00:57:32,720
know you know it's a mystery

1287
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:36,300
that's uh he's an interesting guy but uh

1288
00:57:41,329 --> 00:57:38,640
always cautious about him as well

1289
00:57:43,490 --> 00:57:41,339
because like after the success of

1290
00:57:46,130 --> 00:57:43,500
communion then he wrote a whole series

1291
00:57:48,049 --> 00:57:46,140
of books and had new experiences to

1292
00:57:49,309 --> 00:57:48,059
write about and I found that a little

1293
00:57:52,130 --> 00:57:49,319
coincidental

1294
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:52,140
you know it's kind of like uh this other

1295
00:57:56,510 --> 00:57:54,960
person Daniel Brinkley who he wrote a

1296
00:57:59,089 --> 00:57:56,520
very famous book about near-death

1297
00:58:00,829 --> 00:57:59,099
experiences and then what I think when

1298
00:58:02,750 --> 00:58:00,839
that money dried up Suddenly he died

1299
00:58:05,210 --> 00:58:02,760
again and then he wrote another book

1300
00:58:07,370 --> 00:58:05,220
about his second death and I think we're

1301
00:58:08,270 --> 00:58:07,380
up to four times that guy died and wrote

1302
00:58:11,210 --> 00:58:08,280
a book

1303
00:58:12,349 --> 00:58:11,220
so these people are suspect to me and

1304
00:58:14,930 --> 00:58:12,359
you know

1305
00:58:17,410 --> 00:58:14,940
we're on the same page because that's

1306
00:58:20,089 --> 00:58:17,420
something I've noticed about Streeper is

1307
00:58:23,569 --> 00:58:20,099
whenever he's becoming sort of

1308
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:23,579
irrelevant he has convenient memories

1309
00:58:28,549 --> 00:58:27,119
of things that put him back on top in a

1310
00:58:31,010 --> 00:58:28,559
manner of speaking

1311
00:58:32,990 --> 00:58:31,020
so for instance if you remember way back

1312
00:58:35,690 --> 00:58:33,000
when people started reporting that a

1313
00:58:38,150 --> 00:58:35,700
face had been discovered on Mars

1314
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:38,160
all of a sudden strieber says oh you

1315
00:58:44,690 --> 00:58:41,760
know what I just just remembered I saw

1316
00:58:47,390 --> 00:58:44,700
that face way way way back because I was

1317
00:58:50,809 --> 00:58:47,400
on Mars and I mean I saw it right so

1318
00:58:52,010 --> 00:58:50,819
it's like if you find a way to kind of

1319
00:58:56,750 --> 00:58:52,020
uh

1320
00:59:00,049 --> 00:58:56,760
whatever's hip at the moment

1321
00:59:02,510 --> 00:59:00,059
and so oh one more story though about

1322
00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:02,520
um the CIA connection and whether he was

1323
00:59:06,650 --> 00:59:05,040
really mind control so if you look on

1324
00:59:08,809 --> 00:59:06,660
whatever YouTube

1325
00:59:11,930 --> 00:59:08,819
for a video called something like

1326
00:59:15,410 --> 00:59:11,940
interview with an alien it's allegedly a

1327
00:59:17,150 --> 00:59:15,420
real life video of an actual alien that

1328
00:59:19,130 --> 00:59:17,160
was kept um

1329
00:59:21,230 --> 00:59:19,140
at um

1330
00:59:22,730 --> 00:59:21,240
Area 51

1331
00:59:25,370 --> 00:59:22,740
and

1332
00:59:27,710 --> 00:59:25,380
wouldn't you know it shocks he happened

1333
00:59:29,870 --> 00:59:27,720
the alien happened to die right in the

1334
00:59:33,410 --> 00:59:29,880
middle of shooting that video too bad

1335
00:59:38,329 --> 00:59:33,420
but if you look at them it's obviously a

1336
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:38,339
puppet I mean it's obviously a pup okay

1337
00:59:43,549 --> 00:59:41,520
but yeah I watched the documentary that

1338
00:59:45,770 --> 00:59:43,559
was made and brought that up and it said

1339
00:59:47,569 --> 00:59:45,780
we contacted Ruby strieber to see if he

1340
00:59:49,970 --> 00:59:47,579
had any thoughts to share about it but

1341
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:49,980
that he was so freaked out by seeing it

1342
00:59:55,549 --> 00:59:52,079
he couldn't even appear on camera and

1343
00:59:58,250 --> 00:59:55,559
talk about it but that he said if that's

1344
01:00:00,890 --> 00:59:58,260
fake then whoever made it knows how they

1345
01:00:02,930 --> 01:00:00,900
moved and I'm like dude how they move

1346
01:00:04,190 --> 01:00:02,940
that's a [\h__\h] and and you're it's

1347
01:00:07,069 --> 01:00:04,200
interesting you're talking about this

1348
01:00:08,809 --> 01:00:07,079
alien interview actually finish the

1349
01:00:11,329 --> 01:00:08,819
thought right there just sure sorry one

1350
01:00:14,089 --> 01:00:11,339
more sentence because it made me realize

1351
01:00:16,490 --> 01:00:14,099
look again this is more mundane than it

1352
01:00:19,309 --> 01:00:16,500
would seem to me it's obvious some CIA

1353
01:00:21,289 --> 01:00:19,319
Spooks were trotting out a puppet and

1354
01:00:23,329 --> 01:00:21,299
making him think he was interacting with

1355
01:00:25,309 --> 01:00:23,339
this visitor and it's really just a

1356
01:00:28,130 --> 01:00:25,319
puppet and the guy is so messed I mean

1357
01:00:30,770 --> 01:00:28,140
it breaks my heart getting so messed up

1358
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:30,780
in so many different ways now he sees a

1359
01:00:34,190 --> 01:00:32,400
video of a puppet like that that's

1360
01:00:35,870 --> 01:00:34,200
obviously just a puppet and he's so

1361
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:35,880
freaked out he can't even bring himself

1362
01:00:40,010 --> 01:00:38,880
to you're on camera to discuss it so I'm

1363
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:40,020
saying that

1364
01:00:44,650 --> 01:00:42,720
this is really just mundane stuff and

1365
01:00:47,390 --> 01:00:44,660
that that we can

1366
01:00:50,329 --> 01:00:47,400
make sense of in terms of what has been

1367
01:00:52,490 --> 01:00:50,339
revealed like NK Ultra is not a some

1368
01:00:55,130 --> 01:00:52,500
kind of wild conspiracy CIA can write

1369
01:00:56,750 --> 01:00:55,140
out and admitted it so again whether

1370
01:00:59,210 --> 01:00:56,760
streamer went through that I don't know

1371
01:01:01,010 --> 01:00:59,220
I'm just saying it fits the bill so go

1372
01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:01,020
ahead uh I was just going to mention

1373
01:01:07,730 --> 01:01:04,799
that that so-called documentary alien

1374
01:01:10,609 --> 01:01:07,740
interview we showed here that the the

1375
01:01:13,370 --> 01:01:10,619
same person that is asking the questions

1376
01:01:16,130 --> 01:01:13,380
to this Victor character in that

1377
01:01:19,130 --> 01:01:16,140
documentary we took the voice disguiser

1378
01:01:22,010 --> 01:01:19,140
off and it's the same person asking and

1379
01:01:24,589 --> 01:01:22,020
answering the questions as the so if the

1380
01:01:26,930 --> 01:01:24,599
whole thing is one big illusion and I

1381
01:01:29,690 --> 01:01:26,940
happen to have done extensive work in

1382
01:01:31,789 --> 01:01:29,700
puppets and I can tell you 100 that's a

1383
01:01:34,670 --> 01:01:31,799
puppet and not even a very good one it's

1384
01:01:37,250 --> 01:01:34,680
not even a very good one no blinkers no

1385
01:01:39,410 --> 01:01:37,260
uh Braille Ridge movement or you know I

1386
01:01:42,589 --> 01:01:39,420
can make a 10 times better alien puppet

1387
01:01:44,750 --> 01:01:42,599
I never have but I know I can because of

1388
01:01:47,390 --> 01:01:44,760
the work that I've done in that industry

1389
01:01:49,609 --> 01:01:47,400
and it's interesting how like these

1390
01:01:50,990 --> 01:01:49,619
things you know but to some people you

1391
01:01:54,049 --> 01:01:51,000
could show them all this evidence that

1392
01:01:55,970 --> 01:01:54,059
it was a big one big fake hoax illusion

1393
01:01:57,770 --> 01:01:55,980
they don't want to they don't want to

1394
01:01:59,809 --> 01:01:57,780
believe it you know they're like no

1395
01:02:01,609 --> 01:01:59,819
that's never been and people run around

1396
01:02:04,190 --> 01:02:01,619
saying that's never been debunked

1397
01:02:06,289 --> 01:02:04,200
there's one guy still to this day Ken

1398
01:02:10,010 --> 01:02:06,299
that has a Facebook page that harasses

1399
01:02:13,569 --> 01:02:10,020
me constantly and he spends every day

1400
01:02:15,530 --> 01:02:13,579
all day and night talking about that one

1401
01:02:18,049 --> 01:02:15,540
documentary claiming nobody ever

1402
01:02:20,089 --> 01:02:18,059
debunked it it's real

1403
01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:22,250
see what I'm saying about streamer in

1404
01:02:27,710 --> 01:02:25,440
particular is I don't have to attempt to

1405
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:27,720
be a mind reader to know whether he's

1406
01:02:33,410 --> 01:02:29,760
being deceitful or not

1407
01:02:36,650 --> 01:02:33,420
my only point is if it's so obvious that

1408
01:02:38,569 --> 01:02:36,660
it's a puppet but he says wow that's

1409
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:38,579
really the way they move

1410
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:41,280
so that doesn't tell me he's interacting

1411
01:02:46,549 --> 01:02:44,400
with um whatever they are it tells me

1412
01:02:49,010 --> 01:02:46,559
he's most likely truly has been mind

1413
01:02:50,990 --> 01:02:49,020
controlled and he was traumatized yeah

1414
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:51,000
I'm just saying that's a lot more

1415
01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:53,119
mundane explanation that's really

1416
01:02:57,650 --> 01:02:56,400
accessible but now moving on with Trevor

1417
01:02:59,329 --> 01:02:57,660
I mean God you could talk all night

1418
01:03:02,150 --> 01:02:59,339
about him just a couple more points so

1419
01:03:04,190 --> 01:03:02,160
for instance uh the sad heartbreaking

1420
01:03:07,549 --> 01:03:04,200
passing of his wife who he loved

1421
01:03:10,910 --> 01:03:07,559
absolutely dearly right and now all of a

1422
01:03:13,490 --> 01:03:10,920
sudden he has a new stick right which is

1423
01:03:16,730 --> 01:03:13,500
that he wrote one of his books

1424
01:03:18,370 --> 01:03:16,740
which his wife co-authored posthumously

1425
01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:18,380
okay

1426
01:03:26,210 --> 01:03:22,079
posthumously meaning he claims after she

1427
01:03:29,210 --> 01:03:26,220
died she co-wrote a book with him

1428
01:03:31,370 --> 01:03:29,220
okay now uh that's a little far out

1429
01:03:33,349 --> 01:03:31,380
there yeah and I tell you I've heard a

1430
01:03:35,750 --> 01:03:33,359
ghost writing this is ridiculous you

1431
01:03:41,210 --> 01:03:38,809
yeah that that I've never heard that I I

1432
01:03:42,890 --> 01:03:41,220
did not know that about him I would have

1433
01:03:47,150 --> 01:03:42,900
asked him about that like did you write

1434
01:03:51,230 --> 01:03:47,160
a book with you with her then why now

1435
01:03:54,470 --> 01:03:51,240
forget the gray thing now he's got an

1436
01:03:56,390 --> 01:03:54,480
entire New Field of phenomena to claim

1437
01:03:59,210 --> 01:03:56,400
this is my realm now and I get to talk

1438
01:04:01,370 --> 01:03:59,220
all about interaction with the dead and

1439
01:04:04,190 --> 01:04:01,380
that is one of the things that his

1440
01:04:06,289 --> 01:04:04,200
latest speculation about what all this

1441
01:04:08,089 --> 01:04:06,299
has been about all along the others the

1442
01:04:10,910 --> 01:04:08,099
aliens the grays

1443
01:04:15,170 --> 01:04:10,920
his latest speculation and is that it's

1444
01:04:20,510 --> 01:04:18,589
now that takes us in a very interesting

1445
01:04:24,829 --> 01:04:20,520
Direction

1446
01:04:27,470 --> 01:04:24,839
which is when I consider what alleged

1447
01:04:31,309 --> 01:04:27,480
aliens are telling us

1448
01:04:32,650 --> 01:04:31,319
when I consider the experiences people

1449
01:04:36,530 --> 01:04:32,660
have

1450
01:04:39,530 --> 01:04:36,540
contactees the abductees all of that

1451
01:04:41,230 --> 01:04:39,540
it just so happens to coincide with my

1452
01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:41,240
research into what's known as

1453
01:04:47,450 --> 01:04:44,400
transhumanism or posed humanism or

1454
01:04:49,010 --> 01:04:47,460
futurism or H with a plus next to it

1455
01:04:51,230 --> 01:04:49,020
whatever you want to turn

1456
01:04:52,670 --> 01:04:51,240
which is that there's like an Unholy

1457
01:04:55,490 --> 01:04:52,680
Trinity

1458
01:04:58,970 --> 01:04:55,500
you will never look at those issues very

1459
01:05:02,329 --> 01:04:58,980
far before you run into a combination of

1460
01:05:04,849 --> 01:05:02,339
high-tech Evolution and the occult

1461
01:05:07,190 --> 01:05:04,859
can't get away from

1462
01:05:08,950 --> 01:05:07,200
there all the time

1463
01:05:12,049 --> 01:05:08,960
and so

1464
01:05:14,690 --> 01:05:12,059
you're right I've got a kick out of that

1465
01:05:16,730 --> 01:05:14,700
you said that you watched his movie in

1466
01:05:19,730 --> 01:05:16,740
your cabin because

1467
01:05:21,650 --> 01:05:19,740
his initial claim is that he was in his

1468
01:05:24,170 --> 01:05:21,660
meditation room

1469
01:05:25,190 --> 01:05:24,180
in his cabin in Upstate New York and

1470
01:05:27,470 --> 01:05:25,200
that's when he started having

1471
01:05:29,809 --> 01:05:27,480
experiences with these visitors

1472
01:05:31,849 --> 01:05:29,819
of course then later he ends up having

1473
01:05:35,270 --> 01:05:31,859
the convenient memories about his been

1474
01:05:37,309 --> 01:05:35,280
going on ever since childhood whatever

1475
01:05:40,130 --> 01:05:37,319
um and one of his earliest speculation

1476
01:05:41,930 --> 01:05:40,140
is that they were demons and I'm quoting

1477
01:05:44,270 --> 01:05:41,940
his words not mine

1478
01:05:47,990 --> 01:05:44,280
then let me jump over real quick to

1479
01:05:50,329 --> 01:05:48,000
Billy Meyer okay uh the year to get me

1480
01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:50,339
started on that dude and Michael Horn I

1481
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:52,799
got a history there

1482
01:05:58,549 --> 01:05:55,920
so he claims he had his first aid and

1483
01:06:01,069 --> 01:05:58,559
experiences when he was living in in an

1484
01:06:03,230 --> 01:06:01,079
Ajram in India

1485
01:06:05,390 --> 01:06:03,240
and incidentally to touch upon something

1486
01:06:07,370 --> 01:06:05,400
you mentioned earlier he's one of those

1487
01:06:11,569 --> 01:06:07,380
early hoaxers who took a photograph of

1488
01:06:14,450 --> 01:06:11,579
the sky developed it puts Scotch tape of

1489
01:06:16,609 --> 01:06:14,460
the shape of a cross on in the sky I've

1490
01:06:18,289 --> 01:06:16,619
seen that photo again the photograph and

1491
01:06:20,270 --> 01:06:18,299
claimed that he had this Vision that

1492
01:06:22,670 --> 01:06:20,280
that this cross actually appeared in the

1493
01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:22,680
sky he took a photo of it but okay so

1494
01:06:26,089 --> 01:06:24,720
now we have a meditation room we have an

1495
01:06:29,809 --> 01:06:26,099
ashram

1496
01:06:31,430 --> 01:06:29,819
and then um pretty much you're not going

1497
01:06:33,710 --> 01:06:31,440
to get very far into any of these

1498
01:06:36,529 --> 01:06:33,720
stories if you poke hard enough until

1499
01:06:38,750 --> 01:06:36,539
you find occultism somehow involved and

1500
01:06:44,210 --> 01:06:38,760
I'll give you an another example that

1501
01:06:50,990 --> 01:06:48,589
too that's talking about uh documents

1502
01:06:52,430 --> 01:06:51,000
that the government has okay yes let's

1503
01:06:54,349 --> 01:06:52,440
get those that's important he's talking

1504
01:06:56,510 --> 01:06:54,359
about free energy well that's important

1505
01:06:59,870 --> 01:06:56,520
he's talking about pollution yeah and

1506
01:07:01,970 --> 01:06:59,880
I'm like okay man I got you

1507
01:07:04,490 --> 01:07:01,980
excuse me I'm like okay this guy's

1508
01:07:06,410 --> 01:07:04,500
saying really good important stuff that

1509
01:07:08,450 --> 01:07:06,420
we really need to pay attention to and

1510
01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:08,460
all of a sudden he's like hey and if you

1511
01:07:11,930 --> 01:07:10,319
plug down a couple Grand you can join

1512
01:07:16,309 --> 01:07:11,940
with us in the middle of the woods or

1513
01:07:19,089 --> 01:07:16,319
whatever and and partake in open rituals

1514
01:07:21,829 --> 01:07:19,099
to Summon Aliens

1515
01:07:25,370 --> 01:07:21,839
wait a minute what just happened here

1516
01:07:28,609 --> 01:07:25,380
right so there it is again

1517
01:07:31,309 --> 01:07:28,619
um another example uh Sean Stone right

1518
01:07:34,569 --> 01:07:31,319
Oliver Stone's son he was on that show

1519
01:07:37,490 --> 01:07:34,579
with uh Jesse Ventura conspiracy theory

1520
01:07:39,829 --> 01:07:37,500
podcast now yeah he's he's picking the

1521
01:07:42,349 --> 01:07:39,839
podcast now his podcast is doing very

1522
01:07:44,690 --> 01:07:42,359
well actually so there's an episode

1523
01:07:47,630 --> 01:07:44,700
where they go to Skinwalker Ranch

1524
01:07:49,370 --> 01:07:47,640
they're there at night and all of a

1525
01:07:51,710 --> 01:07:49,380
sudden Sean is kind of going like this

1526
01:07:53,809 --> 01:07:51,720
you know very quiet and they're like

1527
01:07:59,710 --> 01:07:53,819
Sean are you okay what's going on and he

1528
01:08:06,410 --> 01:08:02,630
this is supposed to be a show about you

1529
01:08:08,809 --> 01:08:06,420
guys researching UFOs and aliens

1530
01:08:11,089 --> 01:08:08,819
and all of a sudden you're partaking in

1531
01:08:13,609 --> 01:08:11,099
an occult ritual of summoning Spirits

1532
01:08:16,130 --> 01:08:13,619
why I'm telling you it's it's

1533
01:08:18,410 --> 01:08:16,140
unavoidable it's completely unavoidable

1534
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:18,420
that if you poke enough

1535
01:08:23,689 --> 01:08:20,640
at any of these stories you're gonna

1536
01:08:26,269 --> 01:08:23,699
find uh some level of occultism and I

1537
01:08:28,130 --> 01:08:26,279
know that's such a broad term but you

1538
01:08:29,450 --> 01:08:28,140
see by my examples what I mean and I

1539
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:29,460
could keep going and I could keep going

1540
01:08:35,329 --> 01:08:32,400
and I could keep going with examples

1541
01:08:37,070 --> 01:08:35,339
and the issue with high tech and

1542
01:08:40,070 --> 01:08:37,080
evolution again we talked about

1543
01:08:42,289 --> 01:08:40,080
Evolution earlier it's about how well in

1544
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:42,299
the future by golly we're going to end

1545
01:08:46,370 --> 01:08:43,920
up or they're going to end up super

1546
01:08:47,209 --> 01:08:46,380
smart and that'll grow bigger heads and

1547
01:08:49,729 --> 01:08:47,219
then

1548
01:08:51,970 --> 01:08:49,739
uh the high-tech issue to me is

1549
01:08:54,289 --> 01:08:51,980
fascinating because for some odd reason

1550
01:08:57,169 --> 01:08:54,299
there's what I would say is a

1551
01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:57,179
non-sequitur between

1552
01:09:03,410 --> 01:09:00,000
um high-tech and alleged High

1553
01:09:05,390 --> 01:09:03,420
spirituality so it's like because these

1554
01:09:08,410 --> 01:09:05,400
aliens are good engineers and good

1555
01:09:11,749 --> 01:09:08,420
pilots and they're able to travel here

1556
01:09:16,130 --> 01:09:11,759
therefore we should listen to their uh

1557
01:09:18,229 --> 01:09:16,140
spiritual messages well why why assume

1558
01:09:20,950 --> 01:09:18,239
that they have the uh together any

1559
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:20,960
better than us I mean if our astronauts

1560
01:09:25,610 --> 01:09:23,759
landed on a populated planet

1561
01:09:26,990 --> 01:09:25,620
is the fact that they're good engineers

1562
01:09:29,809 --> 01:09:27,000
and good Pilots

1563
01:09:32,749 --> 01:09:29,819
qualify them to to speak on terms of

1564
01:09:35,090 --> 01:09:32,759
theology I mean and why are aliens now

1565
01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:35,100
and one one could argue that there could

1566
01:09:40,249 --> 01:09:37,679
be Advanced civilizations out there that

1567
01:09:42,289 --> 01:09:40,259
have all but abandoned religion and

1568
01:09:43,729 --> 01:09:42,299
spirituality in favor of Technology

1569
01:09:46,490 --> 01:09:43,739
being

1570
01:09:49,370 --> 01:09:46,500
all they care about you know at some

1571
01:09:51,229 --> 01:09:49,380
point and they don't have any views on

1572
01:09:53,269 --> 01:09:51,239
afterlife or anything like that they're

1573
01:09:55,370 --> 01:09:53,279
just concerned with right now and

1574
01:09:57,470 --> 01:09:55,380
technology so yeah I've always wondered

1575
01:09:59,330 --> 01:09:57,480
that too and it always seems to me that

1576
01:10:01,130 --> 01:09:59,340
these UFO gurus

1577
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:01,140
it seems like they've run out of money

1578
01:10:06,229 --> 01:10:04,320
or they run out of uh victims you know

1579
01:10:07,610 --> 01:10:06,239
and they need to broaden the tent so

1580
01:10:09,950 --> 01:10:07,620
suddenly they're getting spiritual

1581
01:10:12,290 --> 01:10:09,960
messages from the aliens and they pull

1582
01:10:14,570 --> 01:10:12,300
in the crystal I call them the crystal

1583
01:10:16,250 --> 01:10:14,580
hippie [\h__\h] but I mean no offense you

1584
01:10:19,130 --> 01:10:16,260
know the crystal happy kind of people

1585
01:10:21,229 --> 01:10:19,140
and you know love and light and and this

1586
01:10:23,290 --> 01:10:21,239
and that and and it does it seems to be

1587
01:10:25,790 --> 01:10:23,300
all intertwined Billy Meyer did it

1588
01:10:28,189 --> 01:10:25,800
Stephen Greer certainly doing it

1589
01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:28,199
bringing in this transcend what he's

1590
01:10:31,729 --> 01:10:30,000
selling is really Transcendental

1591
01:10:34,430 --> 01:10:31,739
Meditation if you look into it and

1592
01:10:37,729 --> 01:10:34,440
that's free you shouldn't be paying

1593
01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:37,739
somebody for that and they all bring in

1594
01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:39,600
spirituality Corey good did it David

1595
01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:43,679
Wilcox does it yeah I mean it's all it's

1596
01:10:49,250 --> 01:10:45,600
all the same incidentally

1597
01:10:52,010 --> 01:10:49,260
why is it that there's people who claim

1598
01:10:53,450 --> 01:10:52,020
that they Channel aliens okay just stop

1599
01:10:56,090 --> 01:10:53,460
there a second they claim that they

1600
01:10:57,950 --> 01:10:56,100
Channel aliens which is very convenient

1601
01:11:00,050 --> 01:10:57,960
because now you don't have to see

1602
01:11:02,030 --> 01:11:00,060
anything you don't have to see an alien

1603
01:11:04,070 --> 01:11:02,040
you don't have to see a UFO nothing you

1604
01:11:08,090 --> 01:11:04,080
can just claim hey our Channel aliens

1605
01:11:09,229 --> 01:11:08,100
but why is it their shtick is exactly

1606
01:11:11,209 --> 01:11:09,239
the same

1607
01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:11,219
as the people who claim that they're

1608
01:11:16,910 --> 01:11:14,640
psychics who channeled dead humans why

1609
01:11:19,010 --> 01:11:16,920
is it the same exact stick

1610
01:11:21,649 --> 01:11:19,020
I mean yeah and they're always with a

1611
01:11:24,590 --> 01:11:21,659
funny voice or something you know like

1612
01:11:26,270 --> 01:11:24,600
they or you know an American Channeler

1613
01:11:29,149 --> 01:11:26,280
will suddenly have an English bad

1614
01:11:31,310 --> 01:11:29,159
English accent or vice versa you know

1615
01:11:33,950 --> 01:11:31,320
why why do aliens always sound like uh

1616
01:11:34,970 --> 01:11:33,960
bad James Bond villains

1617
01:11:39,050 --> 01:11:34,980
yeah

1618
01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:39,060
thing about channeling that I will say

1619
01:11:44,330 --> 01:11:41,520
though is that I have a friend who's

1620
01:11:46,729 --> 01:11:44,340
deeply deeply into the Urantia book and

1621
01:11:49,310 --> 01:11:46,739
it turned his whole life around uh Ken

1622
01:11:51,830 --> 01:11:49,320
he was like a drug addict and a mess and

1623
01:11:54,890 --> 01:11:51,840
a criminal he was a terrible human being

1624
01:11:59,209 --> 01:11:54,900
and he got a hold of the Urantia book in

1625
01:12:02,030 --> 01:11:59,219
prison and now he he is a good father a

1626
01:12:04,970 --> 01:12:02,040
provider a business owner he is very

1627
01:12:07,610 --> 01:12:04,980
spiritual he's very forgiving he's very

1628
01:12:10,669 --> 01:12:07,620
generous and loving kind of a person

1629
01:12:12,410 --> 01:12:10,679
and regardless of what I think of

1630
01:12:14,649 --> 01:12:12,420
channeling the Urantia book is a

1631
01:12:17,149 --> 01:12:14,659
channeled work but for some people

1632
01:12:20,030 --> 01:12:17,159
there's something in that channeling

1633
01:12:22,610 --> 01:12:20,040
that appeals to them or or is able to

1634
01:12:25,010 --> 01:12:22,620
help them become a better person so I

1635
01:12:27,169 --> 01:12:25,020
don't I always am cautious to just throw

1636
01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:27,179
channeling into the trash

1637
01:12:32,510 --> 01:12:30,239
because you know who knows and of course

1638
01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:32,520
being a Biblical scholar you know that

1639
01:12:37,070 --> 01:12:34,560
some people might claim that parts of

1640
01:12:39,470 --> 01:12:37,080
the Bible were channeled from God so who

1641
01:12:43,070 --> 01:12:39,480
knows but these uh profiteering

1642
01:12:45,290 --> 01:12:43,080
channelers my favorite is this uh Bashar

1643
01:12:47,390 --> 01:12:45,300
who put all of his stuff behind a

1644
01:12:49,370 --> 01:12:47,400
paywall because that's exactly what a

1645
01:12:52,250 --> 01:12:49,380
super Advanced extraterrestrial would

1646
01:12:54,410 --> 01:12:52,260
want him to do take those lovely

1647
01:12:57,110 --> 01:12:54,420
spiritual teachings that are supposed to

1648
01:13:00,050 --> 01:12:57,120
help all of humanity and put them behind

1649
01:13:03,310 --> 01:13:00,060
a paywall so you have to pay to get a

1650
01:13:06,290 --> 01:13:03,320
hold of them and pay to to get the the

1651
01:13:08,149 --> 01:13:06,300
aliens wisdom somehow you know it

1652
01:13:10,729 --> 01:13:08,159
doesn't make any sense

1653
01:13:12,709 --> 01:13:10,739
so sometimes it's when a person

1654
01:13:15,050 --> 01:13:12,719
encounters the concept that there is

1655
01:13:17,810 --> 01:13:15,060
something bigger than them

1656
01:13:19,610 --> 01:13:17,820
right it makes them recognize wow what

1657
01:13:21,950 --> 01:13:19,620
I'm dealing with in my mundane little

1658
01:13:23,810 --> 01:13:21,960
life has to be all that much more

1659
01:13:25,970 --> 01:13:23,820
important because I'm part of the bigger

1660
01:13:28,010 --> 01:13:25,980
thing right and maybe that bigger thing

1661
01:13:30,530 --> 01:13:28,020
is a whole deception but it still has

1662
01:13:34,010 --> 01:13:30,540
that meaning to them right

1663
01:13:35,750 --> 01:13:34,020
um but so let me take us in a from where

1664
01:13:37,970 --> 01:13:35,760
we started at the beginning of this a

1665
01:13:40,250 --> 01:13:37,980
gigantic circumlocution all the way back

1666
01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:40,260
to that and and mentioned one thing that

1667
01:13:45,890 --> 01:13:42,719
I think is very important so as you

1668
01:13:48,290 --> 01:13:45,900
listen to alleged messages from supposed

1669
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:48,300
aliens

1670
01:13:55,729 --> 01:13:53,040
um if you break them down right if you

1671
01:13:57,050 --> 01:13:55,739
kind of get the core of what they're

1672
01:13:58,790 --> 01:13:57,060
telling us

1673
01:14:01,610 --> 01:13:58,800
and you cut through all the fluff and

1674
01:14:04,250 --> 01:14:01,620
puff and there's just tons of fluff and

1675
01:14:07,850 --> 01:14:04,260
puffs it's for some reason most aliens

1676
01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:10,370
I realized they're really telling us

1677
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:12,000
three main messages

1678
01:14:17,810 --> 01:14:15,360
three main things and my issue with them

1679
01:14:18,890 --> 01:14:17,820
isn't that I disagree with those three

1680
01:14:19,550 --> 01:14:18,900
things

1681
01:14:21,470 --> 01:14:19,560
um

1682
01:14:24,530 --> 01:14:21,480
is that

1683
01:14:27,770 --> 01:14:24,540
their solution is my problem but one

1684
01:14:29,450 --> 01:14:27,780
thing is hey you humans are polluting to

1685
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:29,460
Europe you're destroying the planet okay

1686
01:14:34,669 --> 01:14:31,679
yeah absolutely I'm down with you on

1687
01:14:37,550 --> 01:14:34,679
that one that's a huge problem gotcha

1688
01:14:40,370 --> 01:14:37,560
you humans are constantly fighting each

1689
01:14:42,169 --> 01:14:40,380
other warring over politics and treat a

1690
01:14:44,090 --> 01:14:42,179
country and even in fighting yeah

1691
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:44,100
absolutely I'm down with you brother

1692
01:14:49,669 --> 01:14:47,760
yeah uh you humans are constantly

1693
01:14:53,030 --> 01:14:49,679
warning each other over your religious

1694
01:14:55,370 --> 01:14:53,040
you know theology this and that okay yep

1695
01:14:57,890 --> 01:14:55,380
down without gotcha like I'm telling you

1696
01:15:00,169 --> 01:14:57,900
all three I'm like yep I got you I'm on

1697
01:15:01,669 --> 01:15:00,179
board with you aliens but then they say

1698
01:15:03,770 --> 01:15:01,679
that here's the solution

1699
01:15:06,050 --> 01:15:03,780
you got to form a one world government

1700
01:15:08,149 --> 01:15:06,060
and a one-word religion and you need to

1701
01:15:11,570 --> 01:15:08,159
worship the Earth as the living entity

1702
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:11,580
or whatever and it's like oh well that's

1703
01:15:17,330 --> 01:15:14,880
that's a little strange how come uh in

1704
01:15:18,950 --> 01:15:17,340
the Bible Romans chapter one and

1705
01:15:22,189 --> 01:15:18,960
especially the whole book of Revelation

1706
01:15:24,470 --> 01:15:22,199
how come those are exactly the type of

1707
01:15:26,570 --> 01:15:24,480
things that we're being told that the

1708
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:26,580
quote unquote Antichrist figure is going

1709
01:15:33,610 --> 01:15:30,239
to be doing how come that just just so

1710
01:15:37,490 --> 01:15:33,620
happens to match up so perfectly right

1711
01:15:39,890 --> 01:15:37,500
yeah and and it's always like love and

1712
01:15:43,070 --> 01:15:39,900
light and profit though to me many of

1713
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:43,080
these people you know uh it's the same

1714
01:15:46,370 --> 01:15:44,640
reason why I have a problem with people

1715
01:15:48,110 --> 01:15:46,380
who claim they have superpowers you know

1716
01:15:50,510 --> 01:15:48,120
Ken there's a reason that Faith healers

1717
01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:50,520
don't work in children's hospitals and

1718
01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:52,560
psychics never win the lottery it's

1719
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:55,199
deception and you know I I don't know

1720
01:15:59,870 --> 01:15:58,080
but it's interesting that you think so

1721
01:16:02,450 --> 01:15:59,880
you think that a lot of this alien stuff

1722
01:16:06,290 --> 01:16:02,460
is intertwined with the occult and with

1723
01:16:09,410 --> 01:16:06,300
maybe other spiritual Realms some people

1724
01:16:11,950 --> 01:16:09,420
believe that the UFOs are all demonic

1725
01:16:18,649 --> 01:16:16,450
because in your um one of the uh

1726
01:16:21,169 --> 01:16:18,659
celebratory shows you did you were

1727
01:16:22,610 --> 01:16:21,179
celebrating some Milestone and I

1728
01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:22,620
remember you mentioned that you were

1729
01:16:26,390 --> 01:16:24,960
actually poo pooing it that there are

1730
01:16:29,209 --> 01:16:26,400
those Christians who say it's all

1731
01:16:31,729 --> 01:16:29,219
demonic but what I'm saying isn't just

1732
01:16:33,470 --> 01:16:31,739
like the you know Saturday Night Live TV

1733
01:16:35,110 --> 01:16:33,480
show church lady oh I don't know it

1734
01:16:38,090 --> 01:16:35,120
could be Satan

1735
01:16:42,229 --> 01:16:38,100
I remember that yeah

1736
01:16:45,169 --> 01:16:42,239
I'm not just saying let's just slap the

1737
01:16:46,970 --> 01:16:45,179
label demonic on it and be done with it

1738
01:16:49,669 --> 01:16:46,980
but I'm saying that there's reasons for

1739
01:16:51,410 --> 01:16:49,679
it one of the reasons is some of the

1740
01:16:54,410 --> 01:16:51,420
examples I gave

1741
01:16:56,570 --> 01:16:54,420
you cannot get away from the occult when

1742
01:16:59,290 --> 01:16:56,580
you're looking at this stuff closely

1743
01:17:02,990 --> 01:16:59,300
enough and deep enough it's absolutely

1744
01:17:04,490 --> 01:17:03,000
everywhere period we'll stop and I could

1745
01:17:07,370 --> 01:17:04,500
like I said I could keep giving you

1746
01:17:09,470 --> 01:17:07,380
example after example so that's just

1747
01:17:12,350 --> 01:17:09,480
there it's not me making it up it's

1748
01:17:18,770 --> 01:17:15,290
um so again remember how we categorize

1749
01:17:20,990 --> 01:17:18,780
the phenomena so could I say all UFO

1750
01:17:23,030 --> 01:17:21,000
phenomena is Demons of course not

1751
01:17:25,010 --> 01:17:23,040
because we already talked about how

1752
01:17:27,950 --> 01:17:25,020
sometimes we're talking about secret

1753
01:17:31,010 --> 01:17:27,960
technology that the government black uh

1754
01:17:32,750 --> 01:17:31,020
Black Ops a three-dimensional Nuts and

1755
01:17:36,290 --> 01:17:32,760
Bolts

1756
01:17:39,290 --> 01:17:36,300
um wine craft or drones or whatever so

1757
01:17:41,450 --> 01:17:39,300
no uh that's why it's important to do

1758
01:17:43,550 --> 01:17:41,460
what we did at the outset

1759
01:17:45,229 --> 01:17:43,560
and can I say it's all demonic well

1760
01:17:47,450 --> 01:17:45,239
again no because

1761
01:17:49,610 --> 01:17:47,460
maybe people were hallucinating maybe

1762
01:17:51,709 --> 01:17:49,620
dreaming maybe seeing a delusion or

1763
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:51,719
Illusion or just making up stuff because

1764
01:17:57,229 --> 01:17:54,000
they were really scared by a movie or TV

1765
01:17:59,450 --> 01:17:57,239
show so again but is there an aspect of

1766
01:18:01,910 --> 01:17:59,460
it that's demonic I don't see how we

1767
01:18:04,070 --> 01:18:01,920
could possibly get away with it just

1768
01:18:07,550 --> 01:18:04,080
away from it I mean

1769
01:18:09,890 --> 01:18:07,560
it's literally inevitable I mean and

1770
01:18:12,110 --> 01:18:09,900
then demonic forces are deceptive right

1771
01:18:14,149 --> 01:18:12,120
they will pretend to be Angels or dead

1772
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:14,159
relatives why would they not pretend to

1773
01:18:18,050 --> 01:18:15,840
be aliens if they thought that that

1774
01:18:20,330 --> 01:18:18,060
would help whatever the cause was

1775
01:18:23,590 --> 01:18:20,340
so a very simple term that a lot of

1776
01:18:25,850 --> 01:18:23,600
people can understand is a trickster

1777
01:18:28,970 --> 01:18:25,860
spirit and it's just like you said

1778
01:18:31,130 --> 01:18:28,980
earlier maybe in one generation in one

1779
01:18:33,649 --> 01:18:31,140
culture they were saying hey we're elves

1780
01:18:37,310 --> 01:18:33,659
oh we're gnomes oh were you dead

1781
01:18:39,370 --> 01:18:37,320
relatives oh we're whatever demons we're

1782
01:18:43,130 --> 01:18:39,380
Angels we're aliens

1783
01:18:45,050 --> 01:18:43,140
just change their uh it is almost like a

1784
01:18:46,490 --> 01:18:45,060
Russian doll it's like you you keep

1785
01:18:49,130 --> 01:18:46,500
going and going and there's a difference

1786
01:18:50,510 --> 01:18:49,140
to the skin yeah change their appearance

1787
01:18:53,330 --> 01:18:50,520
but I'm saying that there's something

1788
01:18:55,070 --> 01:18:53,340
there is inevitable and now let's say

1789
01:18:57,050 --> 01:18:55,080
that somebody says yeah well I don't

1790
01:18:58,669 --> 01:18:57,060
believe in all this demonic stuff it

1791
01:19:01,310 --> 01:18:58,679
doesn't really matter because what I'm

1792
01:19:03,229 --> 01:19:01,320
saying is that the category exists

1793
01:19:05,330 --> 01:19:03,239
it doesn't really matter that you don't

1794
01:19:07,370 --> 01:19:05,340
think it's real what I'm saying is that

1795
01:19:10,850 --> 01:19:07,380
the experiences that are being reported

1796
01:19:13,010 --> 01:19:10,860
to US are categorizable as such

1797
01:19:15,470 --> 01:19:13,020
and and that there are people who

1798
01:19:18,229 --> 01:19:15,480
believe that is what's going on to the

1799
01:19:19,490 --> 01:19:18,239
point like I said that after all these

1800
01:19:22,610 --> 01:19:19,500
decades

1801
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:22,620
streamers saying this whole thing is

1802
01:19:28,130 --> 01:19:24,960
really about interacting with the Dead

1803
01:19:31,189 --> 01:19:28,140
okay I mean there you have it

1804
01:19:32,270 --> 01:19:31,199
it's again it's inevitable

1805
01:19:34,850 --> 01:19:32,280
it's never

1806
01:19:38,570 --> 01:19:34,860
yeah or or maybe he needed something new

1807
01:19:40,790 --> 01:19:38,580
to sell like a new angle I remembered uh

1808
01:19:43,729 --> 01:19:40,800
from uh pop culture that I found

1809
01:19:44,990 --> 01:19:43,739
fascinating remember the reboot of the

1810
01:19:46,669 --> 01:19:45,000
show V

1811
01:19:49,490 --> 01:19:46,679
yeah it was very short-lived

1812
01:19:51,410 --> 01:19:49,500
unfortunately yeah I was so disappointed

1813
01:19:54,470 --> 01:19:51,420
they cut that because I was a huge fan

1814
01:19:56,510 --> 01:19:54,480
of the original show and in fact I I got

1815
01:19:58,729 --> 01:19:56,520
a DVD collection of the whole original

1816
01:20:00,410 --> 01:19:58,739
show and all the movies and I can't wait

1817
01:20:02,890 --> 01:20:00,420
to watch the whole thing again feel like

1818
01:20:05,750 --> 01:20:02,900
I'm you know a kid again

1819
01:20:08,450 --> 01:20:05,760
now the reboot

1820
01:20:10,270 --> 01:20:08,460
towards when it got canceled at the very

1821
01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:10,280
end the aliens

1822
01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:13,920
built a machine that would extract the

1823
01:20:20,030 --> 01:20:16,880
soul from human beings

1824
01:20:23,689 --> 01:20:20,040
yeah I remember that yeah like whether

1825
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:23,699
it's a supposed real experience whether

1826
01:20:30,350 --> 01:20:27,360
it's just sci-fi whatever it is how come

1827
01:20:32,890 --> 01:20:30,360
you can't get away from the occult no

1828
01:20:34,970 --> 01:20:32,900
matter where it's coming from it's there

1829
01:20:37,669 --> 01:20:34,980
right there

1830
01:20:39,649 --> 01:20:37,679
yeah and and there were certainly maybe

1831
01:20:41,630 --> 01:20:39,659
some people would think there's some

1832
01:20:43,910 --> 01:20:41,640
kind of connection with reptilian aliens

1833
01:20:47,209 --> 01:20:43,920
and demonic entities you know the

1834
01:20:50,330 --> 01:20:47,219
serpent the symbology is very similar

1835
01:20:52,250 --> 01:20:50,340
you know it's always fascinated me that

1836
01:20:55,070 --> 01:20:52,260
the that the reptilians are always

1837
01:20:57,530 --> 01:20:55,080
depicted as like the bad guy aliens

1838
01:20:59,930 --> 01:20:57,540
you know the adversary

1839
01:21:01,790 --> 01:20:59,940
right maybe that's not a coincidence who

1840
01:21:03,709 --> 01:21:01,800
knows you know but apparently there are

1841
01:21:06,950 --> 01:21:03,719
people in government convinced that the

1842
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:06,960
UFOs are demonic some Evangelical

1843
01:21:10,370 --> 01:21:08,880
senators or something that don't want

1844
01:21:12,530 --> 01:21:10,380
people studying them because they're

1845
01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:12,540
demonic in nature I remember

1846
01:21:18,470 --> 01:21:15,600
encountering that and and you know what

1847
01:21:20,870 --> 01:21:18,480
okay when you think of so many examples

1848
01:21:23,630 --> 01:21:20,880
you end up going from us those are just

1849
01:21:25,790 --> 01:21:23,640
a bunch of idiot Bible Thumpers to going

1850
01:21:32,510 --> 01:21:25,800
oh wait a minute gosh maybe they're on

1851
01:21:36,890 --> 01:21:34,850
you're muted Stephen

1852
01:21:39,169 --> 01:21:36,900
pretty interesting about the cultural

1853
01:21:41,270 --> 01:21:39,179
connections to to the occult because a

1854
01:21:44,330 --> 01:21:41,280
lot of people don't realize like Jack

1855
01:21:46,610 --> 01:21:44,340
Parsons was huge into the occult rocket

1856
01:21:49,010 --> 01:21:46,620
scientist and many

1857
01:21:51,370 --> 01:21:49,020
things of NASA all use all kinds of

1858
01:21:54,649 --> 01:21:51,380
weird ancient symbology

1859
01:21:57,890 --> 01:21:54,659
references and why do they do that just

1860
01:22:01,130 --> 01:21:57,900
to be mysterious or what now that's very

1861
01:22:03,709 --> 01:22:01,140
interesting so take for instance why do

1862
01:22:07,130 --> 01:22:03,719
so many of these aliens use the names of

1863
01:22:10,330 --> 01:22:07,140
ancient gods goddesses demons or

1864
01:22:12,590 --> 01:22:10,340
whatever like example the ashtar command

1865
01:22:15,890 --> 01:22:12,600
obviously Ishtar

1866
01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:15,900
okay or one of my favorites again back

1867
01:22:20,090 --> 01:22:17,360
to Billy Meyer

1868
01:22:23,390 --> 01:22:20,100
I feel like Meyer's your favorite

1869
01:22:25,610 --> 01:22:23,400
one of my favorites oh geez I had my

1870
01:22:27,830 --> 01:22:25,620
whole history with those guys oh I know

1871
01:22:30,110 --> 01:22:27,840
me too I mean uh yeah if you post

1872
01:22:32,350 --> 01:22:30,120
anything anywhere online about Meyer

1873
01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:32,360
Michael Horn's gonna come and contact

1874
01:22:38,169 --> 01:22:34,800
don't don't say his name out loud

1875
01:22:41,510 --> 01:22:38,179
because he'll hear us

1876
01:22:44,689 --> 01:22:41,520
stupid he'll come here and start calling

1877
01:22:47,450 --> 01:22:44,699
me stupid and you know

1878
01:22:49,550 --> 01:22:47,460
he told me is that what I posted a

1879
01:22:52,130 --> 01:22:49,560
series of articles that I had that ended

1880
01:22:54,470 --> 01:22:52,140
up uh turning into part of the book and

1881
01:22:56,030 --> 01:22:54,480
he contacted me and told me what I wrote

1882
01:22:58,910 --> 01:22:56,040
was so bad he couldn't even bring

1883
01:23:01,130 --> 01:22:58,920
himself to respond to it so I took it as

1884
01:23:02,930 --> 01:23:01,140
a compliment right yeah that's part of

1885
01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:02,940
his tactics he tells you how dumb you

1886
01:23:07,430 --> 01:23:05,520
are you know

1887
01:23:10,630 --> 01:23:07,440
um so one of the Billy Meyer's main

1888
01:23:13,689 --> 01:23:10,640
contacts is sinyaza right

1889
01:23:17,390 --> 01:23:13,699
okay now you look at the uh

1890
01:23:20,209 --> 01:23:17,400
pseudopographic second temple era book

1891
01:23:22,490 --> 01:23:20,219
uh known as first Enoch or ethiopic

1892
01:23:29,770 --> 01:23:22,500
Enoch and what is the name of one of the

1893
01:23:36,130 --> 01:23:33,430
it's unbelievable it's just unbelievable

1894
01:23:41,649 --> 01:23:36,140
yeah

1895
01:23:44,390 --> 01:23:41,659
street no

1896
01:23:46,250 --> 01:23:44,400
and they always make themselves the hero

1897
01:23:49,430 --> 01:23:46,260
of the stabilitymeyer is a huge hero

1898
01:23:53,110 --> 01:23:49,440
he's bringing these messages to uh

1899
01:23:55,850 --> 01:23:53,120
you know to to the world and and

1900
01:23:58,910 --> 01:23:55,860
Jesus was an alien now according to him

1901
01:24:02,209 --> 01:23:58,920
and all kinds of just crazy it gets but

1902
01:24:02,990 --> 01:24:02,219
you're right horn is is ridiculous and

1903
01:24:04,970 --> 01:24:03,000
uh

1904
01:24:06,890 --> 01:24:04,980
I think he's mentally unstable

1905
01:24:10,550 --> 01:24:06,900
somebody's saying Michael Horn was the

1906
01:24:12,290 --> 01:24:10,560
angry elf yeah he he uh and they do the

1907
01:24:14,209 --> 01:24:12,300
same thing they have this pattern where

1908
01:24:16,189 --> 01:24:14,219
they go to a show and then if the show

1909
01:24:19,010 --> 01:24:16,199
is at all critical of them or their

1910
01:24:20,689 --> 01:24:19,020
claims then you get harassed by a

1911
01:24:22,250 --> 01:24:20,699
hundred different cult members or maybe

1912
01:24:25,189 --> 01:24:22,260
Michael Horn with a hundred different

1913
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:25,199
accounts who knows for months and months

1914
01:24:29,750 --> 01:24:27,360
and months and months it's just crazy

1915
01:24:32,390 --> 01:24:29,760
you know

1916
01:24:33,950 --> 01:24:32,400
did you have a similar experience he

1917
01:24:35,870 --> 01:24:33,960
came after you because you wrote a not

1918
01:24:38,390 --> 01:24:35,880
so kind article about the Billy Meyer

1919
01:24:41,030 --> 01:24:38,400
thing I wouldn't say it was unkind I

1920
01:24:44,330 --> 01:24:41,040
mean I was just unpacking uh The Story

1921
01:24:47,149 --> 01:24:44,340
So like um

1922
01:24:48,890 --> 01:24:47,159
um yeah it's part of the book now but I

1923
01:24:50,510 --> 01:24:48,900
was just saying you know he's sort of

1924
01:24:54,290 --> 01:24:50,520
like uh

1925
01:24:56,149 --> 01:24:54,300
uh supposed a Buddha figure because the

1926
01:24:58,430 --> 01:24:56,159
story of the Buddha is that he meditated

1927
01:25:00,290 --> 01:24:58,440
under this tree long enough and gained

1928
01:25:02,689 --> 01:25:00,300
Enlightenment but the other story about

1929
01:25:04,910 --> 01:25:02,699
him is that as soon as he was born he

1930
01:25:07,430 --> 01:25:04,920
actually was able to walk and he

1931
01:25:08,930 --> 01:25:07,440
declared his Enlightenment and it's the

1932
01:25:11,330 --> 01:25:08,940
same thing with Meyer and the same thing

1933
01:25:13,430 --> 01:25:11,340
with Streeper they start by saying hey

1934
01:25:15,649 --> 01:25:13,440
at a certain point in my life when I was

1935
01:25:18,110 --> 01:25:15,659
a few decades old I had an experience in

1936
01:25:20,090 --> 01:25:18,120
them conveniently I'm going to repackage

1937
01:25:22,610 --> 01:25:20,100
my story and say it goes way way way

1938
01:25:25,370 --> 01:25:22,620
back to childhood

1939
01:25:28,610 --> 01:25:25,380
so you have like two Origin stories uh

1940
01:25:30,770 --> 01:25:28,620
for these guys as well this is a this is

1941
01:25:32,570 --> 01:25:30,780
a not in the form of a question but

1942
01:25:35,390 --> 01:25:32,580
since you have such an incredible

1943
01:25:36,610 --> 01:25:35,400
knowledge of this uh demons and fallen

1944
01:25:42,350 --> 01:25:36,620
angels

1945
01:25:43,850 --> 01:25:42,360
worth connecting to they are wise uh I

1946
01:25:46,910 --> 01:25:43,860
would always caution anybody against

1947
01:25:49,070 --> 01:25:46,920
connecting to anything like a demon or

1948
01:25:51,110 --> 01:25:49,080
Fallen Angel but what do you think of

1949
01:25:53,870 --> 01:25:51,120
people who attempt to communicate or

1950
01:25:57,169 --> 01:25:53,880
learn from Fallen Angels or demonic

1951
01:26:03,050 --> 01:26:00,169
um well it's like putting a neon sign on

1952
01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:03,060
your head that says come in we're open

1953
01:26:06,890 --> 01:26:04,560
right that's what I would I would agree

1954
01:26:10,129 --> 01:26:06,900
with you yeah take up shop right here

1955
01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:10,139
you know it's a tremendously bad idea uh

1956
01:26:14,270 --> 01:26:12,000
to say the least you know

1957
01:26:16,189 --> 01:26:14,280
and uh yeah maybe we'll we'll do another

1958
01:26:19,010 --> 01:26:16,199
show about that I don't even want to get

1959
01:26:21,050 --> 01:26:19,020
started because I know I didn't want to

1960
01:26:22,910 --> 01:26:21,060
get you started but I did want to ask

1961
01:26:25,550 --> 01:26:22,920
you a selfish question if you don't mind

1962
01:26:27,649 --> 01:26:25,560
about the Bible since uh I don't often

1963
01:26:30,590 --> 01:26:27,659
get to speak to somebody that has done

1964
01:26:32,570 --> 01:26:30,600
such extensive research into the Bible

1965
01:26:34,250 --> 01:26:32,580
as you have and you have I'm going to

1966
01:26:37,250 --> 01:26:34,260
order this book that you have on on

1967
01:26:40,370 --> 01:26:37,260
Jesus and a few of the other books but

1968
01:26:43,129 --> 01:26:40,380
um I I have a question about the what I

1969
01:26:44,750 --> 01:26:43,139
call the lost 40 days of the Christ

1970
01:26:47,209 --> 01:26:44,760
you know

1971
01:26:49,790 --> 01:26:47,219
um Christ went into the desert for 40

1972
01:26:52,129 --> 01:26:49,800
days before he started his ministry and

1973
01:26:53,810 --> 01:26:52,139
he was told to do that and he was told

1974
01:26:57,470 --> 01:26:53,820
that he would be tempted

1975
01:27:00,530 --> 01:26:57,480
and the Bible is very sparse on what

1976
01:27:02,570 --> 01:27:00,540
happened in that whole 40 days do you

1977
01:27:05,570 --> 01:27:02,580
have any other sources of what happened

1978
01:27:07,550 --> 01:27:05,580
during that 40 days or insight into that

1979
01:27:08,810 --> 01:27:07,560
40 days

1980
01:27:11,810 --> 01:27:08,820
because

1981
01:27:14,270 --> 01:27:11,820
there you go all right well then I'm not

1982
01:27:16,250 --> 01:27:14,280
alone because I've been looking uh

1983
01:27:19,550 --> 01:27:16,260
through everything I can find the Bible

1984
01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:19,560
other sources non-biblical Lost Books of

1985
01:27:24,229 --> 01:27:22,080
the Bible it just seems to me that

1986
01:27:27,050 --> 01:27:24,239
that's such an important story and they

1987
01:27:29,390 --> 01:27:27,060
just like many stories in the Bible they

1988
01:27:31,910 --> 01:27:29,400
glance over it and they just quickly

1989
01:27:34,570 --> 01:27:31,920
mention it and there's a few paragraphs

1990
01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:34,580
and that's it and to me it was

1991
01:27:39,350 --> 01:27:36,960
insufficient because I would want to

1992
01:27:40,850 --> 01:27:39,360
know I thought that would give some

1993
01:27:44,890 --> 01:27:40,860
insight into

1994
01:27:47,870 --> 01:27:44,900
Jesus as man and Jesus as as God because

1995
01:27:50,330 --> 01:27:47,880
you know I I would assume if

1996
01:27:53,090 --> 01:27:50,340
it was this Human Side that they were

1997
01:27:55,070 --> 01:27:53,100
tempting perhaps I I don't know just

1998
01:27:56,930 --> 01:27:55,080
I've been fascinated by that story my

1999
01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:56,940
whole life and want to know more

2000
01:28:01,310 --> 01:27:59,040
and it's disappointing there's not more

2001
01:28:02,990 --> 01:28:01,320
references to that somewhere

2002
01:28:07,010 --> 01:28:03,000
so

2003
01:28:09,649 --> 01:28:07,020
I actually just had a paper published in

2004
01:28:11,930 --> 01:28:09,659
a peer-reviewed journal of a Christian

2005
01:28:14,930 --> 01:28:11,940
parapsychology and one of the things I

2006
01:28:18,290 --> 01:28:14,940
wrote about is how to understand

2007
01:28:20,930 --> 01:28:18,300
how and why demons and the devil do the

2008
01:28:23,870 --> 01:28:20,940
things that they do right so

2009
01:28:26,770 --> 01:28:23,880
when you think about Satan and I hope I

2010
01:28:29,689 --> 01:28:26,780
wrote an entire book just on technology

2011
01:28:32,149 --> 01:28:29,699
and and I started thinking of him in

2012
01:28:34,790 --> 01:28:32,159
terms of being insane and that really

2013
01:28:37,250 --> 01:28:34,800
helped because why would he do some of

2014
01:28:39,050 --> 01:28:37,260
the ridiculous things that he does it is

2015
01:28:41,330 --> 01:28:39,060
not just that he's angry or rebellious

2016
01:28:43,370 --> 01:28:41,340
so that's part of it but almost just

2017
01:28:45,110 --> 01:28:43,380
like completely insane when he's doing

2018
01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:45,120
things that make a lot of sense to him

2019
01:28:50,209 --> 01:28:46,560
but you're looking up from the outside

2020
01:28:52,250 --> 01:28:50,219
like dude you're nuts and so if anything

2021
01:28:55,310 --> 01:28:52,260
I could just say look

2022
01:28:58,070 --> 01:28:55,320
Jesus went out to be by himself fasting

2023
01:29:01,610 --> 01:28:58,080
uh Satan Waits and waits and waits until

2024
01:29:06,050 --> 01:29:01,620
Jesus is like super weak really hungry

2025
01:29:08,030 --> 01:29:06,060
just decimate the desiccated and then he

2026
01:29:10,669 --> 01:29:08,040
shows up and says well guess what you

2027
01:29:12,709 --> 01:29:10,679
know if you are the Son of God through

2028
01:29:14,810 --> 01:29:12,719
these stones into bread right like use

2029
01:29:16,669 --> 01:29:14,820
your own Divine prerogative for your own

2030
01:29:19,669 --> 01:29:16,679
selfish needs

2031
01:29:21,169 --> 01:29:19,679
which Jesus rejects of course and he's

2032
01:29:22,850 --> 01:29:21,179
like well you know I'll show you the

2033
01:29:24,649 --> 01:29:22,860
kingdoms of the world and I'll give it

2034
01:29:26,930 --> 01:29:24,659
to you because they're mine and

2035
01:29:31,070 --> 01:29:26,940
incidentally Jesus didn't deny that

2036
01:29:33,290 --> 01:29:31,080
Jesus just says no right so that's about

2037
01:29:35,990 --> 01:29:33,300
all I could really say about it is that

2038
01:29:40,490 --> 01:29:36,000
this is about Satan coming to us in our

2039
01:29:43,250 --> 01:29:40,500
weakness right so honestly if I just can

2040
01:29:45,410 --> 01:29:43,260
get personal for a minute here

2041
01:29:49,790 --> 01:29:45,420
um because I do listen to you all the

2042
01:29:50,450 --> 01:29:49,800
time and I've been super happy with your

2043
01:29:54,830 --> 01:29:50,460
um

2044
01:29:57,770 --> 01:29:54,840
ability to abstain from the uh fire

2045
01:30:00,950 --> 01:29:57,780
water you know uh yeah I'm doing pretty

2046
01:30:02,510 --> 01:30:00,960
good we're up to 129 days I can't tell

2047
01:30:04,370 --> 01:30:02,520
you how happy I am for you and how

2048
01:30:06,590 --> 01:30:04,380
encouraged I am I've never had that

2049
01:30:09,050 --> 01:30:06,600
problem but just by hearing descriptions

2050
01:30:11,930 --> 01:30:09,060
of it I think it's awesome and I kept

2051
01:30:13,910 --> 01:30:11,940
thinking to myself yeah well you know we

2052
01:30:16,610 --> 01:30:13,920
are told the Devil roams the Earth as a

2053
01:30:19,850 --> 01:30:16,620
roaring lion seeking whom he may devour

2054
01:30:22,310 --> 01:30:19,860
now if I was online Safari I wouldn't be

2055
01:30:24,229 --> 01:30:22,320
getting plastered because then you'd

2056
01:30:26,570 --> 01:30:24,239
hear the sound of the lion coming and

2057
01:30:28,430 --> 01:30:26,580
you'd be so discombobulated it'd be too

2058
01:30:30,350 --> 01:30:28,440
late for you to pick up your rifle aim

2059
01:30:33,410 --> 01:30:30,360
it straight and shoot right

2060
01:30:34,910 --> 01:30:33,420
and so just like the story of Jesus say

2061
01:30:36,350 --> 01:30:34,920
it's going to wait until your plaster

2062
01:30:38,090 --> 01:30:36,360
and then he's going to put some funny

2063
01:30:40,490 --> 01:30:38,100
ideas in your head and then you're

2064
01:30:42,290 --> 01:30:40,500
probably going to act on it I've done a

2065
01:30:44,570 --> 01:30:42,300
lot of stupid things while under the

2066
01:30:46,250 --> 01:30:44,580
influence of alcohol yeah so I just want

2067
01:30:48,050 --> 01:30:46,260
to encourage you a thousand and one

2068
01:30:50,030 --> 01:30:48,060
times to keep it up because I think

2069
01:30:52,310 --> 01:30:50,040
that's really really awesome and I

2070
01:30:54,110 --> 01:30:52,320
guarantee you you're inspiring more

2071
01:30:55,729 --> 01:30:54,120
people than you'll ever know even me who

2072
01:30:58,970 --> 01:30:55,739
doesn't have that problem here inspiring

2073
01:31:02,149 --> 01:30:58,980
me well good yeah and I wanted to ask

2074
01:31:04,970 --> 01:31:02,159
you a selfish question too uh you've

2075
01:31:08,510 --> 01:31:04,980
written like 50 books is it is it worth

2076
01:31:10,910 --> 01:31:08,520
it and I and I I mean like financially

2077
01:31:12,070 --> 01:31:10,920
to you is it worth it right probably not

2078
01:31:15,530 --> 01:31:12,080
no no

2079
01:31:17,689 --> 01:31:15,540
you're very I'm here writing if my first

2080
01:31:20,270 --> 01:31:17,699
what I hope will be my first solo book

2081
01:31:23,149 --> 01:31:20,280
and that's very discouraging but I'm

2082
01:31:25,129 --> 01:31:23,159
going into it with the idea that it's

2083
01:31:27,110 --> 01:31:25,139
it's not really for the money it's to

2084
01:31:29,629 --> 01:31:27,120
share the knowledge and experience that

2085
01:31:33,169 --> 01:31:29,639
the book has to share right exactly so

2086
01:31:34,149 --> 01:31:33,179
so for instance I was talking to a few

2087
01:31:37,669 --> 01:31:34,159
um

2088
01:31:39,410 --> 01:31:37,679
authors of fiction and I was telling

2089
01:31:41,689 --> 01:31:39,420
them man it's really expensive to

2090
01:31:42,950 --> 01:31:41,699
publish a book and they're like what and

2091
01:31:44,510 --> 01:31:42,960
I was like yeah you have to pay the

2092
01:31:45,950 --> 01:31:44,520
publisher to publish your own book and

2093
01:31:47,810 --> 01:31:45,960
they're like no you don't they pay you

2094
01:31:50,030 --> 01:31:47,820
I'm like well maybe that's because you

2095
01:31:51,709 --> 01:31:50,040
guys are publishing fiction where I'm

2096
01:31:54,110 --> 01:31:51,719
publishing like super obscure

2097
01:31:56,629 --> 01:31:54,120
theological stuff that's related to pop

2098
01:31:59,270 --> 01:31:56,639
culture and you know I mean like I told

2099
01:32:01,610 --> 01:31:59,280
you I'm writing a book series reviewing

2100
01:32:04,370 --> 01:32:01,620
uh movies with alien and UFO themes

2101
01:32:07,310 --> 01:32:04,380
right and so for them it was different

2102
01:32:10,310 --> 01:32:07,320
for me it was like it's going to cost me

2103
01:32:12,229 --> 01:32:10,320
a fortune to publish a book and one of

2104
01:32:14,149 --> 01:32:12,239
the things of it is once you publish a

2105
01:32:16,070 --> 01:32:14,159
book it's like a drop in the ocean so

2106
01:32:19,189 --> 01:32:16,080
then you got to put money behind PR

2107
01:32:20,930 --> 01:32:19,199
marketing and that's super expensive so

2108
01:32:23,830 --> 01:32:20,940
I honestly don't even look at my book

2109
01:32:27,950 --> 01:32:23,840
sales I think it'd be too depressing but

2110
01:32:31,250 --> 01:32:27,960
yeah you're just uh you're just a a like

2111
01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:31,260
well of encouragement here for a future

2112
01:32:38,689 --> 01:32:35,760
an aspiring author thank you I

2113
01:32:40,010 --> 01:32:38,699
well because your books do range in

2114
01:32:41,810 --> 01:32:40,020
different subjects they're all

2115
01:32:43,550 --> 01:32:41,820
non-fiction from what I saw but they're

2116
01:32:45,709 --> 01:32:43,560
all different you know at strange and

2117
01:32:48,470 --> 01:32:45,719
esoteric and mysterious subjects demons

2118
01:32:51,350 --> 01:32:48,480
Angels Jesus you know the devil Satan

2119
01:32:53,990 --> 01:32:51,360
aliens but I just thought because of the

2120
01:32:56,570 --> 01:32:54,000
sheer number you know you're so prolific

2121
01:32:58,490 --> 01:32:56,580
having written over 50 now right that I

2122
01:33:00,649 --> 01:32:58,500
thought between the 50 of them he's got

2123
01:33:02,930 --> 01:33:00,659
to be good well a couple of them got to

2124
01:33:06,050 --> 01:33:02,940
sell good maybe the others don't right I

2125
01:33:07,129 --> 01:33:06,060
don't even know I I genuinely don't have

2126
01:33:09,110 --> 01:33:07,139
a clue

2127
01:33:13,310 --> 01:33:09,120
I just don't look at it

2128
01:33:15,890 --> 01:33:13,320
oh but the encouraging part is

2129
01:33:18,649 --> 01:33:15,900
when I latch onto something that I want

2130
01:33:21,890 --> 01:33:18,659
to research all bets are off I'm digging

2131
01:33:24,169 --> 01:33:21,900
deep and going Beyond The Depths right

2132
01:33:26,810 --> 01:33:24,179
um so that's part of why I have to be

2133
01:33:28,250 --> 01:33:26,820
careful how many fan uh pans I have on

2134
01:33:30,110 --> 01:33:28,260
the fire because

2135
01:33:32,149 --> 01:33:30,120
it's going to be too much if I'm

2136
01:33:34,790 --> 01:33:32,159
tackling too much at once because if I'm

2137
01:33:36,890 --> 01:33:34,800
gonna research something I'm gonna dig

2138
01:33:38,810 --> 01:33:36,900
so incredibly deep that it's going to

2139
01:33:41,510 --> 01:33:38,820
take a tremendous amount of effort and

2140
01:33:44,450 --> 01:33:41,520
time and it's very fulfilling for me

2141
01:33:46,790 --> 01:33:44,460
personally even if nobody wants to hear

2142
01:33:49,189 --> 01:33:46,800
about it when I'm done and like I said

2143
01:33:51,070 --> 01:33:49,199
just going through the process of taking

2144
01:33:54,470 --> 01:33:51,080
in a tremendous amount of information

2145
01:33:56,870 --> 01:33:54,480
and just letting it stew in your brain

2146
01:33:58,810 --> 01:33:56,880
and then those puzzle pieces start

2147
01:34:01,370 --> 01:33:58,820
coming together and you start

2148
01:34:03,590 --> 01:34:01,380
systematizing and then finally you start

2149
01:34:06,950 --> 01:34:03,600
typing and that helps you make even more

2150
01:34:09,530 --> 01:34:06,960
sense and finally uh it's out okay it's

2151
01:34:12,169 --> 01:34:09,540
out I don't care if anybody I do care

2152
01:34:14,510 --> 01:34:12,179
it'd be nice if uh you know everybody

2153
01:34:17,090 --> 01:34:14,520
but bought a bunch of every one of my

2154
01:34:19,490 --> 01:34:17,100
books but I'm just saying

2155
01:34:20,870 --> 01:34:19,500
um part of it is just for me because if

2156
01:34:23,330 --> 01:34:20,880
no one else is going to be interested in

2157
01:34:25,189 --> 01:34:23,340
what I have to say at least I get to

2158
01:34:27,169 --> 01:34:25,199
learn something it was interesting for

2159
01:34:29,149 --> 01:34:27,179
me and it was a whole entire process

2160
01:34:31,490 --> 01:34:29,159
that ends in me going

2161
01:34:33,830 --> 01:34:31,500
having that cathartic moment okay I got

2162
01:34:34,729 --> 01:34:33,840
it out there I got it out there ah there

2163
01:34:36,890 --> 01:34:34,739
it is

2164
01:34:39,290 --> 01:34:36,900
it's a you know it's in printed form so

2165
01:34:41,990 --> 01:34:39,300
there you have it if you want it but for

2166
01:34:43,910 --> 01:34:42,000
me it's just a problem yeah that's

2167
01:34:45,950 --> 01:34:43,920
another thing everybody every writer

2168
01:34:48,770 --> 01:34:45,960
that I know is Tommy oh well Stephen

2169
01:34:51,229 --> 01:34:48,780
it's very cathartic to write a book and

2170
01:34:53,149 --> 01:34:51,239
so far it's been a lot of suffering to

2171
01:34:54,890 --> 01:34:53,159
me because there's you know I have to

2172
01:34:56,689 --> 01:34:54,900
have all these sources and I have to

2173
01:34:59,450 --> 01:34:56,699
show where I got to be it's not

2174
01:35:02,090 --> 01:34:59,460
cathartic it's it's a lot of work here

2175
01:35:03,890 --> 01:35:02,100
and My worry is that nobody reads books

2176
01:35:06,470 --> 01:35:03,900
anymore so maybe I'm wasting my time and

2177
01:35:08,410 --> 01:35:06,480
I should just make a video instead of

2178
01:35:13,610 --> 01:35:08,420
writing

2179
01:35:15,830 --> 01:35:13,620
entirely different experience than if

2180
01:35:17,270 --> 01:35:15,840
you're writing fiction God bless those

2181
01:35:19,070 --> 01:35:17,280
people writing fiction with their

2182
01:35:20,990 --> 01:35:19,080
character development and mood and

2183
01:35:23,870 --> 01:35:21,000
setting and all that stuff good for you

2184
01:35:27,530 --> 01:35:23,880
I I can't do that stuff

2185
01:35:29,530 --> 01:35:27,540
um so I'll give you an example uh when I

2186
01:35:32,270 --> 01:35:29,540
wrote a book titled

2187
01:35:34,430 --> 01:35:32,280
Nephilim and Giants has her pop

2188
01:35:38,750 --> 01:35:34,440
researchers where I'm basically

2189
01:35:41,330 --> 01:35:38,760
critiquing all the top guys in the Pop

2190
01:35:45,830 --> 01:35:41,340
level of nephrology

2191
01:35:47,090 --> 01:35:45,840
I plowed through about 80 Books Okay uh

2192
01:35:49,070 --> 01:35:47,100
there are the black one right there

2193
01:35:52,550 --> 01:35:49,080
that's volume one

2194
01:35:56,209 --> 01:35:52,560
yeah when I was done with the research I

2195
01:35:58,910 --> 01:35:56,219
ended up with 400 Pages just worth of

2196
01:36:01,970 --> 01:35:58,920
quotations from those books

2197
01:36:04,610 --> 01:36:01,980
and then it happened to coincide when

2198
01:36:07,629 --> 01:36:04,620
all the stay-at-home orders were

2199
01:36:12,350 --> 01:36:07,639
starting for that certain virus you know

2200
01:36:14,450 --> 01:36:12,360
that's what we don't talk about here so

2201
01:36:17,030 --> 01:36:14,460
it happened to coincide where now I'm

2202
01:36:18,649 --> 01:36:17,040
staying home and I have a lot of time to

2203
01:36:20,750 --> 01:36:18,659
just sit there and and right you're

2204
01:36:22,970 --> 01:36:20,760
right and right and right and right but

2205
01:36:25,189 --> 01:36:22,980
for instance just a little window into

2206
01:36:28,370 --> 01:36:25,199
what the research is like I had 400

2207
01:36:30,470 --> 01:36:28,380
Pages for worth of quotations and I had

2208
01:36:32,810 --> 01:36:30,480
to figure out where am I going to stick

2209
01:36:35,209 --> 01:36:32,820
them in what chapter and what order and

2210
01:36:36,669 --> 01:36:35,219
that was tremendously tedious I mean

2211
01:36:40,370 --> 01:36:36,679
that was like

2212
01:36:42,290 --> 01:36:40,380
mind-numbing idiom like unbelievable

2213
01:36:45,470 --> 01:36:42,300
hours Upon Our

2214
01:36:49,430 --> 01:36:45,480
hours and days after today

2215
01:36:50,830 --> 01:36:49,440
of just doing that uh but then when I

2216
01:36:53,750 --> 01:36:50,840
started

2217
01:36:58,390 --> 01:36:53,760
writing what I wanted to comment before

2218
01:37:04,189 --> 01:37:01,270
see that was the more pleasurable thing

2219
01:37:05,390 --> 01:37:04,199
not just start writing right that was

2220
01:37:10,129 --> 01:37:05,400
enjoyable

2221
01:37:14,629 --> 01:37:10,139
but yeah it can be tremendously tedious

2222
01:37:16,850 --> 01:37:14,639
but yeah I I don't I don't know yeah I

2223
01:37:23,629 --> 01:37:16,860
guess the

2224
01:37:29,510 --> 01:37:25,370
oh

2225
01:37:31,010 --> 01:37:29,520
yeah you uh froze up a little spinning

2226
01:37:33,169 --> 01:37:31,020
uh

2227
01:37:36,290 --> 01:37:33,179
yeah we were buffering for a moment

2228
01:37:39,229 --> 01:37:36,300
there sorry before I forget I want to

2229
01:37:42,050 --> 01:37:39,239
mention that I put I put Ken's YouTube

2230
01:37:43,070 --> 01:37:42,060
uh channel in the description of this

2231
01:37:46,669 --> 01:37:43,080
video

2232
01:37:49,310 --> 01:37:46,679
also uh a place where you can the Amazon

2233
01:37:52,669 --> 01:37:49,320
search link so you can see all of his

2234
01:37:54,470 --> 01:37:52,679
books his many many books no matter what

2235
01:37:57,050 --> 01:37:54,480
strange things you're into he probably

2236
01:38:02,390 --> 01:37:57,060
wrote a book about it this guy so make

2237
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:09,410
yeah I think we're buffering Maybe

2238
01:38:13,610 --> 01:38:11,930
yeah I think I think let me try this

2239
01:38:17,689 --> 01:38:13,620
hold on one second

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01:38:22,669 --> 01:38:20,209
no buffer

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01:38:24,649 --> 01:38:22,679
there we go

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01:38:26,629 --> 01:38:24,659
maybe that did it or shut down anything

2243
01:38:30,890 --> 01:38:26,639
open besides I don't know what happened

2244
01:38:30,900 --> 01:38:36,290
and the Walter boxes yeah

2245
01:38:40,490 --> 01:38:38,870
I got Walter Bosley another author is

2246
01:38:42,830 --> 01:38:40,500
here and he turned me on to this place

2247
01:38:46,790 --> 01:38:42,840
called Hulu it's a printer and

2248
01:38:51,830 --> 01:38:49,129
yeah we appear to have a big delay here

2249
01:38:54,169 --> 01:38:51,840
now too along with the buffering

2250
01:38:56,750 --> 01:38:54,179
but yeah we're running out of time so

2251
01:38:59,030 --> 01:38:56,760
maybe we'll cut it here I want to uh

2252
01:39:00,649 --> 01:38:59,040
thank you for joining us and and invite

2253
01:39:02,990 --> 01:39:00,659
you to make sure that you come back and

2254
01:39:05,750 --> 01:39:03,000
we'll talk a different subject next time

2255
01:39:07,129 --> 01:39:05,760
this was fun I appreciate you being by

2256
01:39:09,709 --> 01:39:07,139
the way

2257
01:39:11,689 --> 01:39:09,719
all right I'm totally honored and I had

2258
01:39:13,490 --> 01:39:11,699
a blast and one thing I love about your

2259
01:39:15,590 --> 01:39:13,500
show incidentally is that every one of

2260
01:39:17,270 --> 01:39:15,600
your shows has four endings

2261
01:39:19,370 --> 01:39:17,280
but you're like okay good night

2262
01:39:20,990 --> 01:39:19,380
everybody oh and you know what let me

2263
01:39:24,649 --> 01:39:21,000
mention you go on for 15 more minutes

2264
01:39:26,930 --> 01:39:24,659
and they're like okay I'm sorry yeah I'm

2265
01:39:30,050 --> 01:39:26,940
not good at the wrap up can you go on 10

2266
01:39:32,530 --> 01:39:30,060
more minutes and then I get oh yeah that

2267
01:39:36,590 --> 01:39:32,540
reminds me yeah I I do have to do that

2268
01:39:41,090 --> 01:39:36,600
yeah you're right see now you're gonna

2269
01:39:45,890 --> 01:39:43,850
okay well I'm Gonna Let You Go and we'll

2270
01:39:47,510 --> 01:39:45,900
invite you to come back another time to

2271
01:39:50,330 --> 01:39:47,520
talk a different subject I'd really like

2272
01:39:52,729 --> 01:39:50,340
to delve into you know I have an

2273
01:39:55,729 --> 01:39:52,739
interest in this demonology and exorcism

2274
01:39:58,850 --> 01:39:55,739
and possession and all of that stuff but

2275
01:40:01,370 --> 01:39:58,860
uh hopefully I have time to get a few of

2276
01:40:03,590 --> 01:40:01,380
your books and read them before your

2277
01:40:05,629 --> 01:40:03,600
next appearance here so I'm gonna do

2278
01:40:08,209 --> 01:40:05,639
that and I'll be in touch thanks for

2279
01:40:10,750 --> 01:40:08,219
being here contact me and uh we can set

2280
01:40:14,090 --> 01:40:10,760
that up I'll cut you a deal so

2281
01:40:16,010 --> 01:40:14,100
okay thanks Ken okay good night and God

2282
01:40:18,530 --> 01:40:16,020
bless you all thanks so much all right

2283
01:40:20,870 --> 01:40:18,540
good night Ken boy that was interesting

2284
01:40:23,149 --> 01:40:20,880
what an interesting individual I am

2285
01:40:26,149 --> 01:40:23,159
going to check in with the uh with the

2286
01:40:28,070 --> 01:40:26,159
super chats we uh I we make it a point

2287
01:40:31,850 --> 01:40:28,080
here we read every single one of them

2288
01:40:33,830 --> 01:40:31,860
and sometimes we forget to do that uh so

2289
01:40:36,169 --> 01:40:33,840
yeah we did read them all

2290
01:40:39,169 --> 01:40:36,179
um we have uh Lord ludicrous interesting

2291
01:40:41,570 --> 01:40:39,179
conversation really enjoyed it and uh Mr

2292
01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:41,580
D.B Cooper asked astral citizens if you

2293
01:40:45,470 --> 01:40:43,199
ever accepted cash payments from secure

2294
01:40:47,870 --> 01:40:45,480
team 10 when he had his channel that was

2295
01:40:50,750 --> 01:40:47,880
called Lions ground investigate that

2296
01:40:52,970 --> 01:40:50,760
Stephen boom yeah I'll ask him about it

2297
01:40:56,689 --> 01:40:52,980
again but I believe I've already heard

2298
01:40:58,850 --> 01:40:56,699
the story uh as I mentioned uh Jameson

2299
01:41:01,669 --> 01:40:58,860
Reese is here and by the way Jameson I

2300
01:41:03,350 --> 01:41:01,679
uh would be interested in hearing your

2301
01:41:05,330 --> 01:41:03,360
opinions on all this stuff and you're

2302
01:41:07,669 --> 01:41:05,340
right I do view things from a

2303
01:41:11,030 --> 01:41:07,679
judeo-christian

2304
01:41:13,490 --> 01:41:11,040
um perspective I was raised uh Catholic

2305
01:41:15,229 --> 01:41:13,500
and went to Catholic school I had 10

2306
01:41:18,050 --> 01:41:15,239
years of scripture study and theology

2307
01:41:22,550 --> 01:41:18,060
taught by Jesuit priests and brothers

2308
01:41:26,450 --> 01:41:22,560
and nuns of different orders so you're

2309
01:41:29,629 --> 01:41:26,460
right I have my own lens through which I

2310
01:41:31,790 --> 01:41:29,639
see things but I did have a long period

2311
01:41:34,669 --> 01:41:31,800
in my teenage years and later in my

2312
01:41:37,370 --> 01:41:34,679
early 20s where I read every book on the

2313
01:41:39,770 --> 01:41:37,380
occult that I could find

2314
01:41:42,410 --> 01:41:39,780
um I think that I was actively trying to

2315
01:41:45,530 --> 01:41:42,420
fill in the blanks of what was missing

2316
01:41:47,990 --> 01:41:45,540
from what I felt like I learned from the

2317
01:41:50,270 --> 01:41:48,000
Catholics you know I wanted to see

2318
01:41:53,930 --> 01:41:50,280
the other side of things see other

2319
01:41:56,629 --> 01:41:53,940
perspectives I got into you know Pagan

2320
01:41:59,450 --> 01:41:56,639
religions and uh Buddhism and other

2321
01:42:01,729 --> 01:41:59,460
religions and meditation and ceremonial

2322
01:42:04,129 --> 01:42:01,739
magic and everything that I could read I

2323
01:42:06,709 --> 01:42:04,139
did for a long period of time

2324
01:42:09,729 --> 01:42:06,719
so uh Simon flies here and says great

2325
01:42:13,129 --> 01:42:09,739
guests and we want to thank Simon fly

2326
01:42:16,250 --> 01:42:13,139
and mystery Eon is here and says please

2327
01:42:19,370 --> 01:42:16,260
remember to like And subscribe uh and

2328
01:42:20,810 --> 01:42:19,380
yes I would be a terrible YouTuber

2329
01:42:22,490 --> 01:42:20,820
um and and I'm sorry I caught it short

2330
01:42:23,870 --> 01:42:22,500
like that on Ken but it seemed like it

2331
01:42:26,930 --> 01:42:23,880
wasn't going to recover from whatever

2332
01:42:29,570 --> 01:42:26,940
his buffering issues I'm interested in

2333
01:42:31,390 --> 01:42:29,580
having him back to talk uh about more

2334
01:42:35,390 --> 01:42:31,400
spiritual and

2335
01:42:37,250 --> 01:42:35,400
call it the Dark Side of Things

2336
01:42:39,830 --> 01:42:37,260
um he's got a whole I'm going to show

2337
01:42:43,070 --> 01:42:39,840
you guys oh this is like I said

2338
01:42:44,689 --> 01:42:43,080
occasionally in conspiracy land I mean a

2339
01:42:46,550 --> 01:42:44,699
really strange and interesting character

2340
01:42:48,169 --> 01:42:46,560
and I love strange and interesting

2341
01:42:50,209 --> 01:42:48,179
characters because I'm a strange and

2342
01:42:50,990 --> 01:42:50,219
interesting character

2343
01:42:56,750 --> 01:42:51,000
um

2344
01:42:58,850 --> 01:42:56,760
of these different books that are just

2345
01:43:00,290 --> 01:42:58,860
the titles alone are fascinating to me

2346
01:43:02,750 --> 01:43:00,300
and I'm going to be ordering a bunch of

2347
01:43:04,970 --> 01:43:02,760
them luckily I just cleared some room on

2348
01:43:06,350 --> 01:43:04,980
my huge bookshelfs in my basement I'm

2349
01:43:09,290 --> 01:43:06,360
going to be working on my personal

2350
01:43:11,570 --> 01:43:09,300
library and I would like to have some of

2351
01:43:13,550 --> 01:43:11,580
these books for uh reference look at

2352
01:43:17,510 --> 01:43:13,560
this what does the Bible say about the

2353
01:43:20,750 --> 01:43:17,520
devil and Satan uh stylized satanology

2354
01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:20,760
uh here's one Kane as serpent seed of

2355
01:43:23,689 --> 01:43:21,840
Satan

2356
01:43:26,330 --> 01:43:23,699
uh

2357
01:43:30,770 --> 01:43:26,340
on the Genesis 6 Affairs sons of God

2358
01:43:33,169 --> 01:43:30,780
angels are not there's a famous uh

2359
01:43:35,330 --> 01:43:33,179
part of the Bible in Genesis 6 that

2360
01:43:38,870 --> 01:43:35,340
refers to the sons of God like the sons

2361
01:43:42,470 --> 01:43:38,880
of God saw that God created Earth you

2362
01:43:44,990 --> 01:43:42,480
know so previous to humans there was a

2363
01:43:47,450 --> 01:43:45,000
different sons of God and many

2364
01:43:50,270 --> 01:43:47,460
theologians philosophers have discussed

2365
01:43:52,910 --> 01:43:50,280
what what was meant by that Bible verse

2366
01:43:56,030 --> 01:43:52,920
were these Angels were these

2367
01:43:58,430 --> 01:43:56,040
um pre-adamite humans what were these

2368
01:44:01,970 --> 01:43:58,440
sons of God that were there to behold

2369
01:44:05,270 --> 01:44:01,980
and witness the creation of Earth

2370
01:44:07,010 --> 01:44:05,280
um that stuff has always fascinated me

2371
01:44:08,570 --> 01:44:07,020
and here's one that would certainly

2372
01:44:10,430 --> 01:44:08,580
interest me because I have a crazy

2373
01:44:13,189 --> 01:44:10,440
interest in the Nephilim from the Bible

2374
01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:13,199
the Giants of the Bible uh which were

2375
01:44:18,590 --> 01:44:14,880
reported to be

2376
01:44:20,990 --> 01:44:18,600
the uh sons of

2377
01:44:23,470 --> 01:44:21,000
Offspring or excuse me the sons of

2378
01:44:28,910 --> 01:44:23,480
unions between the daughters of men

2379
01:44:30,590 --> 01:44:28,920
human Earth women and Fallen Angels what

2380
01:44:32,590 --> 01:44:30,600
does the Bible say about Giants in the

2381
01:44:37,129 --> 01:44:32,600
Nephilim a styled

2382
01:44:39,709 --> 01:44:37,139
giantology and nephiology that's looks

2383
01:44:41,209 --> 01:44:39,719
like a great book here's one that I

2384
01:44:43,550 --> 01:44:41,219
would certainly be interested in is

2385
01:44:47,209 --> 01:44:43,560
Jesus the Messiah of Judaism versus

2386
01:44:49,850 --> 01:44:47,219
Judaism debate uh

2387
01:44:52,070 --> 01:44:49,860
always fascinated by that uh because

2388
01:44:54,970 --> 01:44:52,080
according to Catholics and Christians

2389
01:44:57,590 --> 01:44:54,980
Jesus hit all the markers all of the

2390
01:45:00,770 --> 01:44:57,600
prophecies were fulfilled by his coming

2391
01:45:03,530 --> 01:45:00,780
and uh I've always wondered why the

2392
01:45:07,030 --> 01:45:03,540
Jewish people rejected him or or did not

2393
01:45:09,410 --> 01:45:07,040
accept him as the the Messiah

2394
01:45:10,729 --> 01:45:09,420
I'm sure that book gets into some of

2395
01:45:13,669 --> 01:45:10,739
that stuff

2396
01:45:17,149 --> 01:45:13,679
the splitting of the pineal gland this

2397
01:45:19,609 --> 01:45:17,159
guy writes a lot of books man

2398
01:45:22,010 --> 01:45:19,619
I I what and here's the book that we

2399
01:45:25,490 --> 01:45:22,020
were talking about today 50 Shades of

2400
01:45:27,950 --> 01:45:25,500
Gray aliens in consideration of aliens

2401
01:45:29,870 --> 01:45:27,960
Billy Meyer Eric Von Donegan Robert

2402
01:45:33,470 --> 01:45:29,880
Temple Travis Walton Whitley strieber

2403
01:45:38,030 --> 01:45:33,480
Ancient Aliens manly P hall and more

2404
01:45:44,510 --> 01:45:40,250
mufon research specialist and author of

2405
01:45:46,970 --> 01:45:44,520
Beyond science fiction uh said that

2406
01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:46,980
uh he's got a lot of quotes here from

2407
01:45:51,410 --> 01:45:48,000
some of them

2408
01:45:53,510 --> 01:45:51,420
uh uh he provides he provokes the reader

2409
01:45:55,970 --> 01:45:53,520
to consider all aspects of the situation

2410
01:45:57,590 --> 01:45:55,980
that many May Overlook because it may

2411
01:46:01,910 --> 01:45:57,600
interfere with our preconceived ideas

2412
01:46:04,250 --> 01:46:01,920
that knowingly or not we want to prove

2413
01:46:08,030 --> 01:46:04,260
uh he goes this book talks about the

2414
01:46:09,709 --> 01:46:08,040
founder of the ce4 research group

2415
01:46:12,950 --> 01:46:09,719
oh no

2416
01:46:14,570 --> 01:46:12,960
Stephen Greer right so I encourage you

2417
01:46:16,490 --> 01:46:14,580
the link is in the description of the

2418
01:46:18,830 --> 01:46:16,500
video you heard him say that he's not

2419
01:46:21,410 --> 01:46:18,840
making a mint here writing all these

2420
01:46:23,149 --> 01:46:21,420
books and that's uh that's a little sad

2421
01:46:25,669 --> 01:46:23,159
and unfortunate to me

2422
01:46:28,790 --> 01:46:25,679
and this is the Anarchist Cookbook a

2423
01:46:30,649 --> 01:46:28,800
styled satanology uh that's another book

2424
01:46:34,370 --> 01:46:30,659
on the devil

2425
01:46:36,770 --> 01:46:34,380
uh yeah interesting interesting stuff

2426
01:46:38,870 --> 01:46:36,780
the apocryphal Nephilim and Giants

2427
01:46:43,070 --> 01:46:38,880
encountering the Nephilim and Giants and

2428
01:46:45,709 --> 01:46:43,080
extra biblical texts there is a lot of

2429
01:46:48,169 --> 01:46:45,719
um references to the Nephilim that are

2430
01:46:50,930 --> 01:46:48,179
in the uh so-called lost books of the

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01:46:53,870 --> 01:46:50,940
Bible or The Book of Enoch and other

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01:46:55,970 --> 01:46:53,880
things that may shed more light than the

2433
01:46:59,270 --> 01:46:55,980
Bible did on the Nephilim

2434
01:47:01,370 --> 01:46:59,280
and here's on Jesus uh mythists

2435
01:47:04,609 --> 01:47:01,380
[Music]

2436
01:47:07,970 --> 01:47:04,619
mythicism myth on Jesus existence

2437
01:47:11,510 --> 01:47:07,980
mythicism Pagan copycat marriage tune

2438
01:47:14,450 --> 01:47:11,520
and Beyond so uh he has written and look

2439
01:47:17,270 --> 01:47:14,460
at this the Pastoral Nephilim and Giants

2440
01:47:20,689 --> 01:47:17,280
what do Pastors teach and preach

2441
01:47:22,729 --> 01:47:20,699
yeah amazing that Ken has written this

2442
01:47:25,189 --> 01:47:22,739
many books now here's where it gets into

2443
01:47:27,169 --> 01:47:25,199
other books not his so it's really this

2444
01:47:30,290 --> 01:47:27,179
is the first page of the search that I

2445
01:47:32,090 --> 01:47:30,300
have included in the description of the

2446
01:47:34,370 --> 01:47:32,100
video here so I'm going to be buying

2447
01:47:37,129 --> 01:47:34,380
some of these books uh and I encourage

2448
01:47:39,770 --> 01:47:37,139
you to do the same I think we should

2449
01:47:42,050 --> 01:47:39,780
encourage people who are writing

2450
01:47:44,330 --> 01:47:42,060
um books on these strange and esoteric

2451
01:47:47,870 --> 01:47:44,340
subjects if we don't support them not

2452
01:47:50,450 --> 01:47:47,880
sure who will you know uh oh and I

2453
01:47:54,770 --> 01:47:50,460
missed one

2454
01:47:56,209 --> 01:47:54,780
five bucks each for some Haze thank you

2455
01:47:58,129 --> 01:47:56,219
complies there for your kindness

2456
01:48:01,669 --> 01:47:58,139
generosity and your support of the show

2457
01:48:03,169 --> 01:48:01,679
it is much much appreciated and we are

2458
01:48:04,790 --> 01:48:03,179
going to

2459
01:48:14,930 --> 01:48:04,800
uh

2460
01:48:21,830 --> 01:48:18,410
and I like nothing more than getting

2461
01:48:28,550 --> 01:48:25,910
oh my gosh every time you donate I'm

2462
01:48:29,950 --> 01:48:28,560
gonna get down with my knees

2463
01:48:40,790 --> 01:48:29,960
[Music]

2464
01:48:48,050 --> 01:48:43,850
yes thank you for your generosity

2465
01:48:52,010 --> 01:48:48,060
I saw somebody uh asking for advice on

2466
01:48:55,850 --> 01:48:52,020
cameras uh and I am a not a good person

2467
01:48:57,770 --> 01:48:55,860
to ask advice on uh digital video

2468
01:48:59,750 --> 01:48:57,780
cameras because I am still using

2469
01:49:02,330 --> 01:48:59,760
something called a

2470
01:49:06,229 --> 01:49:02,340
Kodak I think it's called a zy8 it's

2471
01:49:08,330 --> 01:49:06,239
really old early HD consumer cam not a

2472
01:49:11,450 --> 01:49:08,340
good person to ask for advice I need to

2473
01:49:14,570 --> 01:49:11,460
upgrade my own to 4K cameras up but I

2474
01:49:16,490 --> 01:49:14,580
have been using those three Kodak

2475
01:49:18,169 --> 01:49:16,500
um

2476
01:49:20,510 --> 01:49:18,179
they're just little

2477
01:49:22,729 --> 01:49:20,520
they look like a phone they have a

2478
01:49:24,649 --> 01:49:22,739
little screen on the front I don't know

2479
01:49:27,649 --> 01:49:24,659
how else to describe them

2480
01:49:29,689 --> 01:49:27,659
and for HD video as long as you have

2481
01:49:31,129 --> 01:49:29,699
good lighting they work very well and

2482
01:49:32,930 --> 01:49:31,139
they're easy to just plug into a

2483
01:49:35,030 --> 01:49:32,940
computer suck the files in and put into

2484
01:49:37,310 --> 01:49:35,040
a video editor that's why I like those

2485
01:49:39,530 --> 01:49:37,320
but I'm a terrible person to ask for

2486
01:49:42,470 --> 01:49:39,540
advice on cameras because I'm many many

2487
01:49:44,810 --> 01:49:42,480
years behind most people

2488
01:49:47,570 --> 01:49:44,820
um eventually I have to work on a better

2489
01:49:49,790 --> 01:49:47,580
video editing rig so that I can handle

2490
01:49:51,890 --> 01:49:49,800
4K video because I think with most of my

2491
01:49:55,570 --> 01:49:51,900
computers now they can do it but it's so

2492
01:49:57,770 --> 01:49:55,580
slow editing and it buffers and and

2493
01:50:01,430 --> 01:49:57,780
aggravates me while I'm trying to edit

2494
01:50:04,550 --> 01:50:01,440
it I did a few 4K videos with friends 4k

2495
01:50:07,370 --> 01:50:04,560
camera uh using that to shoot some

2496
01:50:09,709 --> 01:50:07,380
footage just to test 4K and editing and

2497
01:50:12,290 --> 01:50:09,719
and see what it would look like and and

2498
01:50:14,510 --> 01:50:12,300
yeah it's better but for YouTube and

2499
01:50:17,450 --> 01:50:14,520
streaming especially 1080 is fine for me

2500
01:50:19,729 --> 01:50:17,460
so I use Ancient cameras I'm a I'd love

2501
01:50:22,370 --> 01:50:19,739
to help you uh I need somebody to

2502
01:50:24,229 --> 01:50:22,380
recommend good 4K affordable video

2503
01:50:27,229 --> 01:50:24,239
cameras myself

2504
01:50:30,530 --> 01:50:27,239
so uh any questions or comments for me

2505
01:50:34,729 --> 01:50:30,540
please put them in all capital letters

2506
01:50:37,550 --> 01:50:34,739
okay a webcam I can help you with uh

2507
01:50:40,550 --> 01:50:37,560
Logitech if you want to avoid a lot of

2508
01:50:44,209 --> 01:50:40,560
problems see here's the thing I have one

2509
01:50:46,430 --> 01:50:44,219
two three four five cameras in here in

2510
01:50:48,350 --> 01:50:46,440
the office not all of them are working

2511
01:50:50,930 --> 01:50:48,360
or hooked up right right now they were

2512
01:50:53,770 --> 01:50:50,940
but then I

2513
01:50:56,149 --> 01:50:53,780
I escaped to the garage for a while

2514
01:50:58,609 --> 01:50:56,159
because of the heat in here now we're

2515
01:51:01,070 --> 01:50:58,619
back I'm going to get those working what

2516
01:51:05,629 --> 01:51:01,080
I can tell you is that you can buy a

2517
01:51:08,689 --> 01:51:05,639
decent HD uh webcam on Amazon for 40

2518
01:51:11,209 --> 01:51:08,699
bucks but some of them are shitty you

2519
01:51:13,430 --> 01:51:11,219
will order I ordered one and it was

2520
01:51:14,810 --> 01:51:13,440
great and then I said oh let me order a

2521
01:51:16,550 --> 01:51:14,820
couple more of those to get the

2522
01:51:19,010 --> 01:51:16,560
multi-camera setup going but then the

2523
01:51:22,070 --> 01:51:19,020
other ones they sent me were crappy it's

2524
01:51:24,649 --> 01:51:22,080
a crap shoot but if you don't want it to

2525
01:51:29,090 --> 01:51:24,659
be a crap shoot buy a Logitech like a

2526
01:51:33,229 --> 01:51:29,100
C920 LogiTech C920 let me look that up I

2527
01:51:36,709 --> 01:51:33,239
think that's what it it's C920 or c922

2528
01:51:43,250 --> 01:51:40,970
FC 920 c922

2529
01:51:46,129 --> 01:51:43,260
uh

2530
01:51:47,750 --> 01:51:46,139
yeah and they'll go those go for like 65

2531
01:51:49,850 --> 01:51:47,760
bucks and that's what I'm using right

2532
01:51:52,129 --> 01:51:49,860
now to do this broadcast here I'll I

2533
01:51:55,370 --> 01:51:52,139
will share my screen it's called the

2534
01:51:57,649 --> 01:51:55,380
Logitech C920 uh and you can get one of

2535
01:52:00,890 --> 01:51:57,659
these for 65 bucks

2536
01:52:03,109 --> 01:52:00,900
and uh it's good image quality even in

2537
01:52:05,450 --> 01:52:03,119
low light you can see I'm in super low

2538
01:52:08,570 --> 01:52:05,460
light here I like it dark you know why

2539
01:52:12,290 --> 01:52:08,580
the darker it is the more handsome I get

2540
01:52:14,870 --> 01:52:12,300
especially according to my wife right so

2541
01:52:18,950 --> 01:52:14,880
uh I would recommend highly recommend a

2542
01:52:20,510 --> 01:52:18,960
C920 or a c922 if you want to be sure

2543
01:52:22,490 --> 01:52:20,520
that you're just going to get a good one

2544
01:52:25,010 --> 01:52:22,500
and not aggravate yourself with a crappy

2545
01:52:27,590 --> 01:52:25,020
camera for cheap

2546
01:52:29,689 --> 01:52:27,600
um uh but thank you

2547
01:52:31,490 --> 01:52:29,699
as far as video cameras I'm the wrong

2548
01:52:33,950 --> 01:52:31,500
person to ask I wouldn't want to tell

2549
01:52:35,810 --> 01:52:33,960
you I I'm like I said my cameras are

2550
01:52:39,050 --> 01:52:35,820
ancient the ones that I'm using for

2551
01:52:40,970 --> 01:52:39,060
video work I have to upgrade mine uh

2552
01:52:42,830 --> 01:52:40,980
somebody else in the live chat may have

2553
01:52:46,370 --> 01:52:42,840
some suggestions I encourage them if

2554
01:52:49,729 --> 01:52:46,380
they know to uh to help quarter x with

2555
01:52:53,930 --> 01:52:52,370
quarter X yeah I know good webcams I

2556
01:52:56,629 --> 01:52:53,940
don't know good

2557
01:52:59,689 --> 01:52:56,639
video cameras if you're asking about

2558
01:53:02,689 --> 01:52:59,699
webcams I would stick to Logitech HD

2559
01:53:03,770 --> 01:53:02,699
cams uh you'll never go wrong with them

2560
01:53:09,050 --> 01:53:03,780
right

2561
01:53:12,109 --> 01:53:09,060
but uh oh and mystery Eon has uh one

2562
01:53:14,870 --> 01:53:12,119
that he is uh

2563
01:53:16,850 --> 01:53:14,880
he is recommending but I have to go to

2564
01:53:19,370 --> 01:53:16,860
the live chat to be able to go to that

2565
01:53:22,189 --> 01:53:19,380
to share it I'll share that mystery Eon

2566
01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:22,199
is a techie guy and he's probably pretty

2567
01:53:27,229 --> 01:53:25,440
dead on uh with what he's suggesting

2568
01:53:29,689 --> 01:53:27,239
here

2569
01:53:34,390 --> 01:53:29,699
what are you suggesting wow look this

2570
01:53:39,890 --> 01:53:37,250
82 pounds this one

2571
01:53:42,950 --> 01:53:39,900
that's a weird looking one uh mystery

2572
01:53:45,530 --> 01:53:42,960
Eon here I will share that I guess we've

2573
01:53:48,530 --> 01:53:45,540
uh now we're we're done talking about

2574
01:53:52,430 --> 01:53:48,540
aliens and demons now we're on to the

2575
01:53:59,750 --> 01:53:55,850
7 20 p.m 120 frames per second why would

2576
01:54:03,530 --> 01:53:59,760
you want 720 though it is 1080p

2577
01:54:05,209 --> 01:54:03,540
120 frames a second 360p at 260 frames a

2578
01:54:06,830 --> 01:54:05,219
second that's this is a weird camera

2579
01:54:10,669 --> 01:54:06,840
they don't want something like that they

2580
01:54:13,250 --> 01:54:10,679
want a general webcam a mystery eon

2581
01:54:15,169 --> 01:54:13,260
I don't think that's a good choice for

2582
01:54:17,050 --> 01:54:15,179
somebody just wants a general webcam but

2583
01:54:22,310 --> 01:54:17,060
what do I know

2584
01:54:28,030 --> 01:54:25,310
archaic revival I just I just knew that

2585
01:54:30,830 --> 01:54:28,040
would happen yeah

2586
01:54:34,189 --> 01:54:30,840
so any more questions or comments for me

2587
01:54:37,189 --> 01:54:34,199
please uh you know let me know in the in

2588
01:54:38,870 --> 01:54:37,199
the live chat otherwise there was one

2589
01:54:42,229 --> 01:54:38,880
thing else that I wanted to share of

2590
01:54:45,830 --> 01:54:42,239
Ken's he has some very interesting some

2591
01:54:52,189 --> 01:54:49,490
he has some very creepy illustrations of

2592
01:54:54,350 --> 01:54:52,199
angels and things on his YouTube channel

2593
01:54:56,990 --> 01:54:54,360
by the way please do support our guest I

2594
01:54:58,490 --> 01:54:57,000
put the link to his YouTube channel in

2595
01:55:00,050 --> 01:54:58,500
the description of this video go on over

2596
01:55:02,229 --> 01:55:00,060
there and subscribe if you like weird

2597
01:55:07,450 --> 01:55:02,239
stuff and who doesn't like weird stuff

2598
01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:07,460
this is an illustration of cherubim and

2599
01:55:20,169 --> 01:55:12,480
uh open him which are types of angels uh

2600
01:55:25,189 --> 01:55:22,629
thank you

2601
01:55:26,990 --> 01:55:25,199
mute the music because I'm not sure if

2602
01:55:28,370 --> 01:55:27,000
it's royalty free but this is an

2603
01:55:31,490 --> 01:55:28,380
animation

2604
01:55:34,609 --> 01:55:31,500
on Ken's YouTube

2605
01:55:37,250 --> 01:55:34,619
so like I said uh

2606
01:55:39,229 --> 01:55:37,260
that is uh one of the strange things

2607
01:55:40,550 --> 01:55:39,239
you'll find on his YouTube channel and I

2608
01:55:43,430 --> 01:55:40,560
like strange and interesting things

2609
01:55:45,709 --> 01:55:43,440
myself so uh he's got a bunch of weird

2610
01:55:47,629 --> 01:55:45,719
stuff like this over there as well as uh

2611
01:55:49,430 --> 01:55:47,639
he posts some of his interviews I saw

2612
01:55:51,530 --> 01:55:49,440
that he posted a few clips of our show

2613
01:55:54,290 --> 01:55:51,540
over in his channel and that's fine we

2614
01:55:56,930 --> 01:55:54,300
have uh big Believers in Creative

2615
01:55:59,090 --> 01:55:56,940
Commons so if you want to uh post a clip

2616
01:56:01,189 --> 01:55:59,100
of our show on your Channel or anywhere

2617
01:56:02,990 --> 01:56:01,199
else you're free to do that just please

2618
01:56:04,669 --> 01:56:03,000
provide a link back to our Channel and

2619
01:56:07,189 --> 01:56:04,679
ask people to come and subscribe to our

2620
01:56:10,669 --> 01:56:07,199
channel right

2621
01:56:12,709 --> 01:56:10,679
meat Canyon is weird but funny if you've

2622
01:56:14,750 --> 01:56:12,719
seen his work no I haven't but now I've

2623
01:56:21,950 --> 01:56:14,760
got to look up that and find out what

2624
01:56:25,550 --> 01:56:23,810
mystery Eon says that's the best

2625
01:56:28,790 --> 01:56:25,560
conference solution at the price with

2626
01:56:31,970 --> 01:56:28,800
the decent sensor and lens uh I suppose

2627
01:56:33,609 --> 01:56:31,980
like I said I'm no expert USB Tethered

2628
01:56:37,970 --> 01:56:33,619
to your PC

2629
01:56:39,830 --> 01:56:37,980
yeah uh yeah so uh we've done our due

2630
01:56:41,270 --> 01:56:39,840
diligence I do want to remind you of

2631
01:56:42,290 --> 01:56:41,280
something I'm going to go on over to

2632
01:56:45,649 --> 01:56:42,300
Twitter

2633
01:56:48,229 --> 01:56:45,659
and uh oh wait a minute no actually I'm

2634
01:56:50,149 --> 01:56:48,239
gonna go over to can I do this I don't

2635
01:56:53,330 --> 01:56:50,159
know I've never done this I'm gonna

2636
01:56:54,709 --> 01:56:53,340
tomorrow night at 9 00 PM I want to be

2637
01:56:57,109 --> 01:56:54,719
sure that you are aware that we're

2638
01:57:00,229 --> 01:56:57,119
having a very special guest again

2639
01:57:03,470 --> 01:57:00,239
two great guest nights in a row here

2640
01:57:06,470 --> 01:57:03,480
friends uh and that is

2641
01:57:10,729 --> 01:57:06,480
tomorrow night at 9 00 PM we are gonna

2642
01:57:12,890 --> 01:57:10,739
have Bob kiviat as a guest and boy I

2643
01:57:16,010 --> 01:57:12,900
can't tell you how much of my childhood

2644
01:57:17,450 --> 01:57:16,020
I talked to him and I said I I don't

2645
01:57:19,609 --> 01:57:17,460
know whether to thank you or punch you

2646
01:57:22,609 --> 01:57:19,619
in the face because

2647
01:57:24,830 --> 01:57:22,619
a huge part of the reason that my show

2648
01:57:27,950 --> 01:57:24,840
truth Seekers is here and that I'm here

2649
01:57:30,229 --> 01:57:27,960
is because of Bob kibiot uh he is

2650
01:57:31,189 --> 01:57:30,239
excellent and

2651
01:57:34,550 --> 01:57:31,199
um

2652
01:57:36,890 --> 01:57:34,560
is the producer of many many things that

2653
01:57:39,470 --> 01:57:36,900
you may have seen before like UFOs the

2654
01:57:41,390 --> 01:57:39,480
best evidence ever caught on tape he was

2655
01:57:43,430 --> 01:57:41,400
a writer and producer for Unsolved

2656
01:57:46,669 --> 01:57:43,440
Mysteries and of course

2657
01:57:48,890 --> 01:57:46,679
I think he's probably most famous for

2658
01:57:51,649 --> 01:57:48,900
the highest rated television show about

2659
01:57:56,149 --> 01:57:51,659
UFOs or aliens ever in the history of

2660
01:57:58,089 --> 01:57:56,159
humans and that was the alien autopsy uh

2661
01:58:02,089 --> 01:57:58,099
special on Fox

2662
01:58:05,270 --> 01:58:02,099
uh Bob caveat is a researcher writer

2663
01:58:08,030 --> 01:58:05,280
producer television guy

2664
01:58:10,430 --> 01:58:08,040
um and it's just he's had a very

2665
01:58:12,290 --> 01:58:10,440
interesting run having worked on all

2666
01:58:15,050 --> 01:58:12,300
these amazing projects with Jonathan

2667
01:58:18,109 --> 01:58:15,060
Frakes from uh Star Trek the Next

2668
01:58:20,629 --> 01:58:18,119
Generation Fame and also of course being

2669
01:58:22,189 --> 01:58:20,639
a writer producer involved with Unsolved

2670
01:58:23,990 --> 01:58:22,199
Mysteries and you guys have heard me

2671
01:58:27,290 --> 01:58:24,000
mention that Unsolved Mysteries is a big

2672
01:58:28,970 --> 01:58:27,300
reason why my show is here one of the

2673
01:58:31,070 --> 01:58:28,980
reasons I wanted to do a show like this

2674
01:58:34,250 --> 01:58:31,080
is because I grew up watching Unsolved

2675
01:58:36,410 --> 01:58:34,260
Mysteries somewhere along the way uh we

2676
01:58:38,689 --> 01:58:36,420
went though from we were supposed to

2677
01:58:40,910 --> 01:58:38,699
cover many many strange and mysterious

2678
01:58:43,010 --> 01:58:40,920
Mysteries somehow we got hyper focused

2679
01:58:45,410 --> 01:58:43,020
on UFOs and aliens but I'm hoping that

2680
01:58:48,109 --> 01:58:45,420
will change in the coming days and weeks

2681
01:58:51,290 --> 01:58:48,119
and months we'll see uh but he will be

2682
01:58:54,229 --> 01:58:51,300
here tomorrow night at 9 00 PM eastern

2683
01:58:55,750 --> 01:58:54,239
time and we're going to do a full long

2684
01:58:59,810 --> 01:58:55,760
form interview

2685
01:59:02,109 --> 01:58:59,820
Bob kibiat is making a big comeback with

2686
01:59:05,270 --> 01:59:02,119
some new streaming

2687
01:59:07,609 --> 01:59:05,280
projects all about

2688
01:59:10,250 --> 01:59:07,619
uh all about

2689
01:59:12,950 --> 01:59:10,260
many things he's got one on the Mandela

2690
01:59:14,990 --> 01:59:12,960
effect he's got one called uh one on

2691
01:59:18,050 --> 01:59:15,000
UFOs of course

2692
01:59:20,750 --> 01:59:18,060
and uh he'll be here talking about some

2693
01:59:23,390 --> 01:59:20,760
of his history and of course uh talking

2694
01:59:26,570 --> 01:59:23,400
about his new and upcoming projects he's

2695
01:59:28,669 --> 01:59:26,580
got a bunch of fires in the iron or

2696
01:59:30,950 --> 01:59:28,679
excuse me irons in the fire got that

2697
01:59:34,070 --> 01:59:30,960
backwards he's got a bunch of irons in

2698
01:59:36,770 --> 01:59:34,080
the fire as they say and he will be here

2699
01:59:38,930 --> 01:59:36,780
tomorrow night 9 p.m Eastern Standard

2700
01:59:42,229 --> 01:59:38,940
Time for a full interview here on true

2701
01:59:44,510 --> 01:59:42,239
Seekers very happy to have him big fan

2702
01:59:46,970 --> 01:59:44,520
of many many of the things that he

2703
01:59:49,310 --> 01:59:46,980
produced growing up and projects that he

2704
01:59:51,169 --> 01:59:49,320
was involved in he's a real fascinating

2705
01:59:53,510 --> 01:59:51,179
guy too he and I had a nice talk already

2706
01:59:56,270 --> 01:59:53,520
but we're gonna do we I kept telling him

2707
01:59:58,729 --> 01:59:56,280
like wow this Bob saveefer will save it

2708
02:00:02,510 --> 01:59:58,739
for the interview because he has got

2709
02:00:05,149 --> 02:00:02,520
some incredible stuff to share too and

2710
02:00:07,550 --> 02:00:05,159
uh boy is he not a fan of some people

2711
02:00:09,350 --> 02:00:07,560
I'm also not a fan of and he's got some

2712
02:00:11,510 --> 02:00:09,360
of the inside Scoops that we're going to

2713
02:00:14,030 --> 02:00:11,520
ask him about here

2714
02:00:17,530 --> 02:00:14,040
um he's not dropping breadcrumbs friends

2715
02:00:20,270 --> 02:00:17,540
he's going to be dropping bombs here

2716
02:00:22,810 --> 02:00:20,280
oh some of the stuff that this guy knows

2717
02:00:26,450 --> 02:00:22,820
about is amazing and I hope that we can

2718
02:00:29,149 --> 02:00:26,460
pry some of that from him and get him to

2719
02:00:31,910 --> 02:00:29,159
really open up and share here I am

2720
02:00:34,070 --> 02:00:31,920
anxiously already writing questions and

2721
02:00:37,070 --> 02:00:34,080
trying to figure out how to you know

2722
02:00:39,649 --> 02:00:37,080
navigate this interview

2723
02:00:41,330 --> 02:00:39,659
um it's it's all the stuff that he

2724
02:00:44,030 --> 02:00:41,340
produced was a big part of my childhood

2725
02:00:46,729 --> 02:00:44,040
of course UFO's best evidence ever

2726
02:00:49,310 --> 02:00:46,739
caught on tape one and two he did alien

2727
02:00:52,129 --> 02:00:49,320
autopsy he did um

2728
02:00:53,930 --> 02:00:52,139
uh aliens on the moon like what's really

2729
02:00:56,510 --> 02:00:53,940
going on on the moon remember that one

2730
02:00:59,930 --> 02:00:56,520
that was him and all of that

2731
02:01:02,629 --> 02:00:59,940
uh stuff about Moon Mysteries it was

2732
02:01:07,189 --> 02:01:02,639
really started by him in that show

2733
02:01:08,050 --> 02:01:07,199
and of course alien autopsy boy and the

2734
02:01:11,510 --> 02:01:08,060
greatest

2735
02:01:14,629 --> 02:01:11,520
despite being fake it was the highest

2736
02:01:17,390 --> 02:01:14,639
rated show television show on aliens and

2737
02:01:19,250 --> 02:01:17,400
UFOs ever to this day no one's ever beat

2738
02:01:21,830 --> 02:01:19,260
that and I don't think anybody ever will

2739
02:01:23,330 --> 02:01:21,840
I remember when that came out everybody

2740
02:01:24,890 --> 02:01:23,340
was talking about it you went to the

2741
02:01:26,149 --> 02:01:24,900
store people were talking about it you

2742
02:01:28,970 --> 02:01:26,159
went to the supermarket they were

2743
02:01:30,410 --> 02:01:28,980
talking about it there uh you went to

2744
02:01:32,990 --> 02:01:30,420
church people were talking people were

2745
02:01:35,390 --> 02:01:33,000
asking the priests oh God remember

2746
02:01:38,030 --> 02:01:35,400
somebody asked his father in my Church

2747
02:01:39,890 --> 02:01:38,040
Father Marcel is that really an alien in

2748
02:01:42,350 --> 02:01:39,900
that in that show and and what does that

2749
02:01:43,669 --> 02:01:42,360
mean you know to to Christians and I

2750
02:01:45,709 --> 02:01:43,679
don't remember what he answered but it

2751
02:01:47,570 --> 02:01:45,719
was just amazing to me that

2752
02:01:49,189 --> 02:01:47,580
I was always interested in Aliens so

2753
02:01:51,169 --> 02:01:49,199
maybe that made me happy that suddenly

2754
02:01:52,850 --> 02:01:51,179
everybody else was talking about the

2755
02:01:55,129 --> 02:01:52,860
possibility of aliens and alien

2756
02:01:57,169 --> 02:01:55,139
visitation it is too bad it turned out

2757
02:01:59,450 --> 02:01:57,179
to be a complete total bogus hoax but

2758
02:02:01,430 --> 02:01:59,460
even the story behind how they hoax that

2759
02:02:05,270 --> 02:02:01,440
is fascinating and he's got all the

2760
02:02:06,890 --> 02:02:05,280
inside scoop on that as well so if you

2761
02:02:08,930 --> 02:02:06,900
enjoyed our talk with Philip mantle

2762
02:02:12,530 --> 02:02:08,940
about the inside baseball of the alien

2763
02:02:14,570 --> 02:02:12,540
autopsy uh special uh Bob kibiot has

2764
02:02:16,729 --> 02:02:14,580
even more to share about that it's going

2765
02:02:19,490 --> 02:02:16,739
to be amazing I can't wait to get him

2766
02:02:21,790 --> 02:02:19,500
here and uh and Grill them I'm gonna be

2767
02:02:24,229 --> 02:02:21,800
grilling them you know

2768
02:02:25,669 --> 02:02:24,239
so we'll take a few more comments and

2769
02:02:28,729 --> 02:02:25,679
questions from the audience before

2770
02:02:31,250 --> 02:02:28,739
bouncing on out of here in Judaism the

2771
02:02:33,709 --> 02:02:31,260
Messiah is Earthly and Christianity is

2772
02:02:39,290 --> 02:02:33,719
ethereal

2773
02:02:47,330 --> 02:02:42,950
there's a much more HD camera there

2774
02:02:51,770 --> 02:02:49,089
Sean Woods

2775
02:02:53,990 --> 02:02:51,780
Mandela effect is cover-ups of the past

2776
02:02:55,669 --> 02:02:54,000
I've got some proof of the Volkswagen

2777
02:02:57,350 --> 02:02:55,679
logo yeah I heard that's part of the

2778
02:03:00,950 --> 02:02:57,360
Mandela effect did that change or

2779
02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:06,430
foreign

2780
02:03:11,450 --> 02:03:09,709
is here and says that's rad Stephen I'd

2781
02:03:13,370 --> 02:03:11,460
be a little nervous too that unsolved

2782
02:03:15,410 --> 02:03:13,380
mystery's theme song needs an

2783
02:03:17,689 --> 02:03:15,420
industrialized mix

2784
02:03:21,830 --> 02:03:17,699
yeah I think somebody did something like

2785
02:03:25,010 --> 02:03:21,840
that I've heard it done a certain way uh

2786
02:03:27,709 --> 02:03:25,020
like a like a house music Electronica

2787
02:03:29,950 --> 02:03:27,719
version they took like the sounds the

2788
02:03:33,229 --> 02:03:29,960
famous sounds

2789
02:03:36,290 --> 02:03:33,239
put it over a big fat beat

2790
02:03:38,810 --> 02:03:36,300
um and by the way panzeroflactum I I

2791
02:03:40,370 --> 02:03:38,820
have watched the new version of Unsolved

2792
02:03:43,070 --> 02:03:40,380
Mysteries and it's just not the same

2793
02:03:46,790 --> 02:03:43,080
without Robert Stack was it good

2794
02:03:49,430 --> 02:03:46,800
it was enjoyable but it wasn't the same

2795
02:03:52,189 --> 02:03:49,440
without Robert Stack standing there in

2796
02:03:54,649 --> 02:03:52,199
that trench coat with fog behind him or

2797
02:03:58,209 --> 02:03:54,659
something you know like

2798
02:04:00,950 --> 02:03:58,219
tonight's special broadcast

2799
02:04:05,629 --> 02:04:00,960
I loved Robert Stack and Unsolved

2800
02:04:11,209 --> 02:04:08,990
the Galaxy S21 Ultra you are missing out

2801
02:04:13,370 --> 02:04:11,219
the zoom is close to Nikon oh the

2802
02:04:15,169 --> 02:04:13,380
techies are out in the live chat that's

2803
02:04:17,209 --> 02:04:15,179
that's about my pay grade

2804
02:04:19,550 --> 02:04:17,219
I have a photograph I took outside my

2805
02:04:22,430 --> 02:04:19,560
home of the original 1970s camper van

2806
02:04:25,189 --> 02:04:22,440
with the joined up logo my brother has a

2807
02:04:27,410 --> 02:04:25,199
1970s camper van though John Wood Mass

2808
02:04:29,510 --> 02:04:27,420
why would they change the logo it

2809
02:04:31,729 --> 02:04:29,520
doesn't make sense right

2810
02:04:33,890 --> 02:04:31,739
archaic revival is here and says clearly

2811
02:04:37,669 --> 02:04:33,900
if the government has UFO information it

2812
02:04:39,950 --> 02:04:37,679
doesn't come out I I agree with you or

2813
02:04:44,209 --> 02:04:39,960
they're they're putting out

2814
02:04:48,050 --> 02:04:44,219
a cover story right John Woodman says

2815
02:04:53,990 --> 02:04:50,810
um yes pensorflactum says it's not the

2816
02:04:58,010 --> 02:04:54,000
same his voice made it I agree I agree

2817
02:05:00,589 --> 02:04:58,020
and pinzer I am actually I'm I'm looking

2818
02:05:03,830 --> 02:05:00,599
for a coat like he used to wear and I

2819
02:05:06,410 --> 02:05:03,840
was gonna do as a homage but too bad I

2820
02:05:08,270 --> 02:05:06,420
didn't get it done in time for uh

2821
02:05:10,250 --> 02:05:08,280
Bob Kibby got to be here but I'm still

2822
02:05:12,950 --> 02:05:10,260
gonna do it I'm gonna find one of those

2823
02:05:14,750 --> 02:05:12,960
uh tan trench coats like he used to wear

2824
02:05:16,609 --> 02:05:14,760
and wear a tie and everything and I'm

2825
02:05:19,609 --> 02:05:16,619
gonna do

2826
02:05:21,050 --> 02:05:19,619
um sort of a tribute to Robert Stack on

2827
02:05:23,750 --> 02:05:21,060
the green screen and I'm going to put a

2828
02:05:25,729 --> 02:05:23,760
similar background behind me and try to

2829
02:05:27,770 --> 02:05:25,739
do the unsolved mystery stick for

2830
02:05:30,109 --> 02:05:27,780
something we have coming up here

2831
02:05:31,850 --> 02:05:30,119
love that show growing up and that

2832
02:05:34,790 --> 02:05:31,860
ignited my

2833
02:05:37,129 --> 02:05:34,800
interest in strange Mysteries and all

2834
02:05:39,229 --> 02:05:37,139
strange Mysteries a lot of people forget

2835
02:05:41,810 --> 02:05:39,239
you know it's not just paranormal stuff

2836
02:05:45,589 --> 02:05:41,820
that I'm interested in I'm interested in

2837
02:05:48,229 --> 02:05:45,599
any any mysterious mystery it really it

2838
02:05:50,810 --> 02:05:48,239
really excites me you know uh

2839
02:05:54,109 --> 02:05:50,820
I I love all of these

2840
02:05:55,970 --> 02:05:54,119
cold cases and I love the cold cases

2841
02:05:58,189 --> 02:05:55,980
where they solve them and where they

2842
02:06:01,669 --> 02:05:58,199
show you how they found the murderer

2843
02:06:04,250 --> 02:06:01,679
after 30 years or you know

2844
02:06:07,310 --> 02:06:04,260
found out what happened to a missing

2845
02:06:10,310 --> 02:06:07,320
child after 20 years cold cases are

2846
02:06:12,649 --> 02:06:10,320
really interesting to me right

2847
02:06:14,689 --> 02:06:12,659
Amy Collins says a techie special could

2848
02:06:16,550 --> 02:06:14,699
really bring out some good ideas lots of

2849
02:06:18,709 --> 02:06:16,560
bright minds and experience in the room

2850
02:06:21,229 --> 02:06:18,719
yeah I'm trying to get my studio

2851
02:06:23,030 --> 02:06:21,239
together here and once I do that I'd be

2852
02:06:24,950 --> 02:06:23,040
willing to do that I want to get the

2853
02:06:27,169 --> 02:06:24,960
layer I've already figured out working

2854
02:06:29,689 --> 02:06:27,179
and done I got to get these extra

2855
02:06:32,209 --> 02:06:29,699
cameras going again I happen to see

2856
02:06:34,550 --> 02:06:32,219
footage of

2857
02:06:36,950 --> 02:06:34,560
um happen to see footage

2858
02:06:38,870 --> 02:06:36,960
that was from a while ago when we had

2859
02:06:40,729 --> 02:06:38,880
the multicam setup going and I really

2860
02:06:42,530 --> 02:06:40,739
liked the way it looked and I missed

2861
02:06:44,330 --> 02:06:42,540
doing that so I'm going to get that

2862
02:06:47,570 --> 02:06:44,340
going and a few other things working in

2863
02:06:50,149 --> 02:06:47,580
here that we added since we we bailed

2864
02:06:52,129 --> 02:06:50,159
out and came back so I'm gonna get that

2865
02:06:54,470 --> 02:06:52,139
stuff working and then I'm going to be

2866
02:06:55,310 --> 02:06:54,480
looking for additional new ideas I also

2867
02:06:57,709 --> 02:06:55,320
have

2868
02:06:59,089 --> 02:06:57,719
a bunch of extra weird stuff over there

2869
02:07:06,290 --> 02:06:59,099
uh some

2870
02:07:09,530 --> 02:07:06,300
strange new lighting that we may be

2871
02:07:12,109 --> 02:07:09,540
adding here right yes Patty Wilhelm says

2872
02:07:14,030 --> 02:07:12,119
need the hat and trench coat yes

2873
02:07:16,010 --> 02:07:14,040
check the thrift stores for this code

2874
02:07:18,830 --> 02:07:16,020
and very much the same for me Stephen

2875
02:07:20,750 --> 02:07:18,840
yeah I I love that growing up I'm gonna

2876
02:07:23,570 --> 02:07:20,760
check eBay I checked the thrift stores

2877
02:07:25,669 --> 02:07:23,580
there's only one near me a Goodwill and

2878
02:07:27,709 --> 02:07:25,679
they didn't have anything even close so

2879
02:07:29,810 --> 02:07:27,719
it's got to be that tan

2880
02:07:31,490 --> 02:07:29,820
full length trench coat like he used to

2881
02:07:33,649 --> 02:07:31,500
wear right

2882
02:07:35,930 --> 02:07:33,659
the case of Albert Fish gave me its

2883
02:07:37,970 --> 02:07:35,940
chills I'm aware of that one if you have

2884
02:07:48,589 --> 02:07:37,980
a strong stomach then look into it yes

2885
02:07:53,330 --> 02:07:50,810
mysterious Eon is not allowed new things

2886
02:07:59,330 --> 02:07:53,340
he covers them in glue and paint

2887
02:08:03,350 --> 02:08:01,129
and I agree that means that will affect

2888
02:08:06,169 --> 02:08:03,360
sometimes does not make any sense at all

2889
02:08:12,709 --> 02:08:06,179
Bob Perkins is back here what's going on

2890
02:08:17,390 --> 02:08:15,589
invisible night school says Diana pasoka

2891
02:08:20,270 --> 02:08:17,400
is a friend not sure what that's about

2892
02:08:21,950 --> 02:08:20,280
yeah so we're gonna it's we're just over

2893
02:08:24,169 --> 02:08:21,960
two hours we're gonna bounce on out of

2894
02:08:26,629 --> 02:08:24,179
here so I want to thank my guests

2895
02:08:28,550 --> 02:08:26,639
tonight we were uh he's a really

2896
02:08:29,689 --> 02:08:28,560
interesting guy I'm sure that we'll have

2897
02:08:32,750 --> 02:08:29,699
him back

2898
02:08:35,709 --> 02:08:32,760
soon to talk about other topics he's

2899
02:08:39,109 --> 02:08:35,719
very well researched well-read

2900
02:08:40,609 --> 02:08:39,119
individual who is uh really

2901
02:08:42,530 --> 02:08:40,619
knowledgeable about many different

2902
02:08:44,750 --> 02:08:42,540
subjects that I have interest in and I

2903
02:08:46,669 --> 02:08:44,760
hope you will too we want to thank Our

2904
02:08:48,470 --> 02:08:46,679
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2905
02:08:50,209 --> 02:08:48,480
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2910
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2911
02:09:02,510 --> 02:08:59,599
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2912
02:09:04,129 --> 02:09:02,520
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2913
02:09:07,790 --> 02:09:04,139
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2914
02:09:10,970 --> 02:09:07,800
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2915
02:09:14,330 --> 02:09:10,980
all of the kind audience members who

2916
02:09:16,609 --> 02:09:14,340
came here tonight for tonight's show I

2917
02:09:19,129 --> 02:09:16,619
want to remind you once again Bob kiviat

2918
02:09:21,169 --> 02:09:19,139
of Unsolved Mysteries and alien autopsy

2919
02:09:24,589 --> 02:09:21,179
Fame will be here tomorrow night our

2920
02:09:27,589 --> 02:09:24,599
very special guest uh and uh we've got

2921
02:09:29,750 --> 02:09:27,599
some more surprises for you before the

2922
02:09:32,510 --> 02:09:29,760
week is out I'm putting my foot on the

2923
02:09:35,870 --> 02:09:32,520
gas again and firing on all cylinders

2924
02:09:37,689 --> 02:09:35,880
creating some uh amazing new content 10

2925
02:09:40,129 --> 02:09:37,699
for all of you

2926
02:09:42,169 --> 02:09:40,139
so we'll be back tomorrow night at 9 00

2927
02:09:44,270 --> 02:09:42,179
PM maybe I'll announce what else is

2928
02:09:44,930 --> 02:09:44,280
going to happen this week

2929
02:09:47,870 --> 02:09:44,940
um

2930
02:09:50,870 --> 02:09:47,880
tomorrow night in fact I'll be up all

2931
02:09:52,250 --> 02:09:50,880
night working on uh some of that Amy

2932
02:09:54,229 --> 02:09:52,260
Collins is here and says Thank You

2933
02:09:57,589 --> 02:09:54,239
Stephen Cannon all who joined in the

2934
02:10:00,530 --> 02:09:57,599
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2935
02:10:02,510 --> 02:10:00,540
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2937
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2939
02:10:11,629 --> 02:10:08,400
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2940
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2944
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land but we would love it if you came

2957
02:10:53,510 --> 02:10:51,000
over and be become a part of the live

2958
02:10:55,910 --> 02:10:53,520
chat experience here you can see you can

2959
02:10:58,250 --> 02:10:55,920
ask questions interact with the live

2960
02:11:01,430 --> 02:10:58,260
guests that we have you are most welcome

2961
02:11:03,470 --> 02:11:01,440
here and I wouldn't be a good YouTuber

2962
02:11:05,689 --> 02:11:03,480
if I didn't also remind you to please

2963
02:11:07,970 --> 02:11:05,699
all of you people within the sound of my

2964
02:11:10,370 --> 02:11:07,980
voice another way that you can really

2965
02:11:12,770 --> 02:11:10,380
hugely support the show is by liking

2966
02:11:14,930 --> 02:11:12,780
commenting subscribing and sharing these

2967
02:11:18,229 --> 02:11:14,940
videos it really does help improve our

2968
02:11:20,870 --> 02:11:18,239
reach find new viewers and listeners and

2969
02:11:22,430 --> 02:11:20,880
supporters uh somebody may have shared

2970
02:11:24,589 --> 02:11:22,440
one of our videos with you and that's

2971
02:11:26,810 --> 02:11:24,599
why you're here it's time to pay it

2972
02:11:29,030 --> 02:11:26,820
forward so please do copy this video

2973
02:11:32,390 --> 02:11:29,040
link put on your Facebook your Twitter

2974
02:11:35,410 --> 02:11:32,400
send it in PMS DMS send it to your

2975
02:11:38,689 --> 02:11:35,420
grandma she might like it you don't know

2976
02:11:41,270 --> 02:11:38,699
whatever works whatever will help us

2977
02:11:43,430 --> 02:11:41,280
rise in the search engine and now is the

2978
02:11:46,430 --> 02:11:43,440
time where I say my daily prayer to the

2979
02:11:49,250 --> 02:11:46,440
YouTube AI algorithm

2980
02:11:52,129 --> 02:11:49,260
AIO algorithm Overlord please find favor

2981
02:11:56,570 --> 02:11:52,139
in us please rise Us in the search

2982
02:11:59,450 --> 02:11:56,580
engine please please help us to grow our

2983
02:12:02,390 --> 02:11:59,460
show so that we may Worship You better

2984
02:12:05,270 --> 02:12:02,400
AI algorithm God in Google's name we

2985
02:12:07,910 --> 02:12:05,280
pray amen every day I say a prayer to

2986
02:12:10,970 --> 02:12:07,920
that YouTube algorithm

2987
02:12:13,810 --> 02:12:10,980
um yeah my hand is in the my life is in

2988
02:12:16,790 --> 02:12:13,820
the hands of a YouTube uh algorithm

2989
02:12:18,950 --> 02:12:16,800
murdering UFO land yes coming as soon as

2990
02:12:21,589 --> 02:12:18,960
I can possibly get it everybody's

2991
02:12:23,530 --> 02:12:21,599
waiting for that uh and and we will

2992
02:12:25,189 --> 02:12:23,540
certainly have uh

2993
02:12:34,250 --> 02:12:25,199
the

2994
02:12:37,609 --> 02:12:34,260
like I'm writing video editing doing

2995
02:12:39,649 --> 02:12:37,619
some custom music for this and sound

2996
02:12:41,990 --> 02:12:39,659
effects and it's going to be really

2997
02:12:44,990 --> 02:12:42,000
great it's going to be my best work ever

2998
02:12:47,390 --> 02:12:45,000
at least I feel it is uh both from an

2999
02:12:48,950 --> 02:12:47,400
investigative standpoint from a research

3000
02:12:51,470 --> 02:12:48,960
standpoint and from a production

3001
02:12:53,870 --> 02:12:51,480
standpoint it's coming together so well

3002
02:12:56,030 --> 02:12:53,880
that I'm getting a little uh anxiety

3003
02:12:57,290 --> 02:12:56,040
about it and I keep working hard and on

3004
02:12:59,109 --> 02:12:57,300
the harder and harder though and that's

3005
02:13:02,149 --> 02:12:59,119
not good enough let's try it again and

3006
02:13:04,609 --> 02:13:02,159
uh I'm an anxiety-ridden mess when it

3007
02:13:06,410 --> 02:13:04,619
comes to new things but the hardest one

3008
02:13:09,410 --> 02:13:06,420
is always the first one in this series

3009
02:13:11,030 --> 02:13:09,420
we will have that to you as quickly as

3010
02:13:13,189 --> 02:13:11,040
we possibly can

3011
02:13:16,069 --> 02:13:13,199
so that's all I got for you for tonight

3012
02:13:18,470 --> 02:13:16,079
friends uh I'm aware there's some drama

3013
02:13:20,149 --> 02:13:18,480
and people for sure want me to talk

3014
02:13:23,089 --> 02:13:20,159
about that but I'm not going to today

3015
02:13:26,290 --> 02:13:23,099
because uh that person is not worth it

3016
02:13:28,490 --> 02:13:26,300
and we will leave him in his own

3017
02:13:30,589 --> 02:13:28,500
self-imposed hell where he has to

3018
02:13:32,510 --> 02:13:30,599
pretend that him and the people he works

3019
02:13:35,209 --> 02:13:32,520
with are credible and that's good enough

3020
02:13:37,370 --> 02:13:35,219
for me for tonight so that's all I got

3021
02:13:39,229 --> 02:13:37,380
for you friends until next time my name

3022
02:13:43,520 --> 02:13:39,239
is Stephen Camby and good night and God

3023
02:14:43,440 --> 02:14:03,890
[Music]

3024
02:15:02,490 --> 02:14:43,450
thank you

3025
02:15:03,850 --> 02:15:02,500
[Music]

3026
02:15:22,270 --> 02:15:03,860
[Applause]

3027
02:15:24,220 --> 02:15:22,280
[Music]

3028
02:15:25,370 --> 02:15:24,230
thank you

3029
02:15:27,580 --> 02:15:25,380
[Music]

3030
02:15:42,710 --> 02:15:27,590
foreign

3031
02:15:42,720 --> 02:15:51,950
[Music]

3032
02:15:51,960 --> 02:16:07,729
[Laughter]

3033
02:16:07,739 --> 02:16:16,910
foreign

3034
02:16:21,530 --> 02:16:19,189
hello I'm Tom Delong and thanks for

3035
02:16:23,149 --> 02:16:21,540
joining us live today this quote above

3036
02:16:24,290 --> 02:16:23,159
me actually happened to me this past

3037
02:16:27,109 --> 02:16:24,300
year

3038
02:16:31,970 --> 02:16:27,119
I sometimes call to the Stars a science

3039
02:16:34,790 --> 02:16:33,650
question Jeff where are you right there

3040
02:16:38,089 --> 02:16:34,800
yeah

3041
02:16:39,349 --> 02:16:38,099
um I just want to thank each and every

3042
02:16:47,870 --> 02:16:39,359
one of y'all

3043
02:16:51,410 --> 02:16:49,509
thank you thank you

3044
02:16:54,709 --> 02:16:51,420
all guys

3045
02:16:56,650 --> 02:16:54,719
you're awesome thank you so much Mr for

3046
02:16:59,330 --> 02:16:56,660
saying what needed to be said

3047
02:17:01,129 --> 02:16:59,340
I don't want to

3048
02:17:03,950 --> 02:17:01,139
see

3049
02:17:06,589 --> 02:17:03,960
now God damn it Bobby I don't care what

3050
02:17:10,190 --> 02:17:06,599
Chris Mellon said on Fox News you're not

3051
02:17:12,410 --> 02:17:10,200
giving money to that Blink 182 fella I

3052
02:17:15,349 --> 02:17:12,420
did they promised to build a spaceship

3053
02:17:17,690 --> 02:17:15,359
no one's building a spaceship Bobby a

3054
02:17:24,950 --> 02:17:17,700
Daily Mail reported that those people

3055
02:17:30,889 --> 02:17:28,129
so uh I'm I'm trying to find this video

3056
02:17:32,750 --> 02:17:30,899
this YouTube and share it and I mean it

3057
02:17:38,150 --> 02:17:32,760
was just in an office in West Virginia

3058
02:17:41,030 --> 02:17:38,160
and and uh uh a student was visiting and

3059
02:17:42,110 --> 02:17:41,040
had a had a video camera and took a

3060
02:17:49,370 --> 02:17:42,120
picture

3061
02:17:51,950 --> 02:17:49,380
of me and uh that that that's it so

3062
02:17:55,310 --> 02:17:51,960
there's no no props or anything like

3063
02:17:57,650 --> 02:17:55,320
that but it was just for a little it was

3064
02:17:59,870 --> 02:17:57,660
just a little um experiment or a little

3065
02:18:02,509 --> 02:17:59,880
show right I mean it wasn't for a

3066
02:18:04,490 --> 02:18:02,519
specific person it was just for uh for a

3067
02:18:07,310 --> 02:18:04,500
specific purpose it was just for fun

3068
02:18:11,270 --> 02:18:07,320
right yes it was just just for fun and

3069
02:18:13,790 --> 02:18:11,280
just to uh just to uh demonstrate how

3070
02:18:15,110 --> 02:18:13,800
this uh yeah yeah to damage demonstrate

3071
02:18:17,570 --> 02:18:15,120
uh

3072
02:18:20,209 --> 02:18:17,580
demonstrate the

3073
02:18:25,490 --> 02:18:22,429
some of the concepts in the book and

3074
02:18:27,410 --> 02:18:25,500
that that's it that's it okay I'm fine

3075
02:19:37,450 --> 02:18:27,420
I'm going to find it and I'm going to

3076
02:19:43,429 --> 02:19:40,209
this is Trixie Roost reporting

3077
02:19:44,209 --> 02:19:43,439
exclusively for the truth Seekers UFO

3078
02:19:47,349 --> 02:19:44,219
desk

3079
02:19:50,990 --> 02:19:47,359
one of our eagle-eyed community members

3080
02:19:55,070 --> 02:19:51,000
just called in to report a battle

3081
02:20:00,290 --> 02:19:55,080
between the space Zulus and the Angela

3082
02:20:01,929 --> 02:20:00,300
so I got out of my tusk to investigate

3083
02:20:05,389 --> 02:20:01,939
this product

3084
02:20:08,270 --> 02:20:05,399
unfortunately it just turned out to be a

3085
02:20:13,090 --> 02:20:08,280
simple Barbara in Philadelphia

3086
02:20:30,230 --> 02:20:16,810
I love looking Bob lazar's butthole

3087
02:20:36,349 --> 02:20:32,889
hey you apology

3088
02:20:39,110 --> 02:20:36,359
k-i-s-s keep it simple stupid simple

3089
02:20:41,090 --> 02:20:39,120
principles are easy to enforce and my

3090
02:20:46,010 --> 02:20:41,100
cat Arlo agrees

3091
02:20:49,429 --> 02:20:47,450
right

3092
02:20:52,010 --> 02:20:49,439
easy

3093
02:20:53,870 --> 02:20:52,020
if nobody told they loved it today

3094
02:21:03,240 --> 02:20:53,880
somebody just did

3095
02:21:03,250 --> 02:21:24,849
[Music]

3096
02:21:28,910 --> 02:21:27,349
here's what I want you to do if the Lord

3097
02:21:30,830 --> 02:21:28,920
is speaking to you

3098
02:21:34,130 --> 02:21:30,840
let's just bring some baskets down just

3099
02:21:36,290 --> 02:21:34,140
leave them there I'm not finished I got

3100
02:21:38,210 --> 02:21:36,300
one more point to make this is what I

3101
02:21:40,309 --> 02:21:38,220
want you to do thank you Miss Marguerite

3102
02:21:41,929 --> 02:21:40,319
I brought her because I want you to

3103
02:21:44,750 --> 02:21:41,939
understand that the work

3104
02:21:47,150 --> 02:21:44,760
must continue this is not a plea for

3105
02:21:50,870 --> 02:21:47,160
money it's a plea for partnership so

3106
02:21:53,210 --> 02:21:50,880
that we can be what we're supposed to be

3107
02:21:56,570 --> 02:21:53,220
[Applause]

3108
02:21:58,150 --> 02:21:56,580
I just need 497 people

3109
02:22:07,910 --> 02:21:58,160
say

3110
02:22:12,469 --> 02:22:10,130
I like being able to help others I like

3111
02:22:14,389 --> 02:22:12,479
being able to fulfill my dreams and you

3112
02:22:16,370 --> 02:22:14,399
know it takes money to do what we're

3113
02:22:18,170 --> 02:22:16,380
doing that's you know that's why God

3114
02:22:19,969 --> 02:22:18,180
gives you influence to help the world to

3115
02:22:21,469 --> 02:22:19,979
make make it a better place we don't ask

3116
02:22:23,389 --> 02:22:21,479
for money and people send in millions of

3117
02:22:24,830 --> 02:22:23,399
dollars to help us keep the broadcast on

3118
02:22:26,990 --> 02:22:24,840
the air I don't think there's anything

3119
02:22:29,690 --> 02:22:27,000
wrong with having a nice place to live

3120
02:22:31,490 --> 02:22:29,700
and being blessed and money should never

3121
02:22:33,349 --> 02:22:31,500
be the focus of your life if that's all

3122
02:22:35,450 --> 02:22:33,359
you're doing that's that's shallow you

3123
02:22:38,580 --> 02:22:35,460
should you know it should be to to be a

3124
02:22:52,969 --> 02:22:50,150
[Music]

3125
02:22:54,950 --> 02:22:52,979
that is God penetrating your heart it's

3126
02:22:56,570 --> 02:22:54,960
burning on the inside of you and you

3127
02:22:58,610 --> 02:22:56,580
need to make a vow of faith of a

3128
02:23:00,889 --> 02:22:58,620
thousand dollars oh Bob couldn't you say

3129
02:23:03,349 --> 02:23:00,899
25 no

3130
02:23:05,990 --> 02:23:03,359
if you can't make a thousand dollar vow

3131
02:23:07,190 --> 02:23:06,000
of faith I'm saying in faith

3132
02:23:09,770 --> 02:23:07,200
so we got people that don't have

3133
02:23:11,389 --> 02:23:09,780
teenagers that have no hardly nothing

3134
02:23:12,830 --> 02:23:11,399
going for them they got enough Faith to

3135
02:23:14,389 --> 02:23:12,840
make a thousand dollar bow and send them

3136
02:23:17,330 --> 02:23:14,399
five dollars here and ten dollars there

3137
02:23:20,090 --> 02:23:17,340
as God begins to move like a whirlwind

3138
02:23:23,030 --> 02:23:21,469
because they don't have that old

3139
02:23:24,950 --> 02:23:23,040
programming of religion but this isn't

3140
02:23:27,770 --> 02:23:24,960
the way we do it in my church forget

3141
02:23:29,090 --> 02:23:27,780
your church I'm talking about what God

3142
02:23:30,170 --> 02:23:29,100
says and if you want the kind of

3143
02:23:31,969 --> 02:23:30,180
Miracles

3144
02:23:33,230 --> 02:23:31,979
you're going to have to do what God Said

3145
02:23:34,610 --> 02:23:33,240
to do

3146
02:23:37,670 --> 02:23:34,620
and I've got the faith to believe

3147
02:23:39,230 --> 02:23:37,680
they'll come to pass this is hot soil or

3148
02:23:42,050 --> 02:23:39,240
anyone that's got the faith

3149
02:23:45,170 --> 02:23:42,060
so into it right now

3150
02:23:46,670 --> 02:23:45,180
I mean right now I mean right now not

3151
02:23:49,070 --> 02:23:46,680
tomorrow that's part of your problem

3152
02:23:50,750 --> 02:23:49,080
God's already spoken a word to you and

3153
02:23:54,530 --> 02:23:50,760
told you to do it you need to do it

3154
02:23:56,870 --> 02:23:54,540
right now if you'll start now and get

3155
02:23:58,969 --> 02:23:56,880
your seat of faith into the ground it'll

3156
02:24:00,410 --> 02:23:58,979
begin to grow and God begin to begin to

3157
02:24:02,750 --> 02:24:00,420
move

3158
02:24:04,490 --> 02:24:02,760
thank you Lord thank you Lord thank you

3159
02:24:06,710 --> 02:24:04,500
Lord this is somebody's day of harvest

3160
02:24:09,110 --> 02:24:06,720
you see there's a time to fasten the

3161
02:24:10,670 --> 02:24:09,120
time to Feast there's a time to sow so

3162
02:24:12,349 --> 02:24:10,680
there'll be a time to read many people

3163
02:24:14,590 --> 02:24:12,359
on a reef and they want to Feast but

3164
02:24:18,050 --> 02:24:14,600
they're not willing to pay the price

3165
02:24:20,750 --> 02:24:18,060
to sow in order that they can re-feed

3166
02:24:23,450 --> 02:24:20,760
you can't see what's not seen until you

3167
02:24:25,309 --> 02:24:23,460
let go of what is seen and that's I'm

3168
02:24:27,170 --> 02:24:25,319
talking about your money because your

3169
02:24:28,790 --> 02:24:27,180
money is you it's your blood it's your

3170
02:24:30,290 --> 02:24:28,800
switch your tears it's driving down the

3171
02:24:32,929 --> 02:24:30,300
freeways it's going to work it's

3172
02:24:36,650 --> 02:24:32,939
believing it's you

3173
02:24:38,090 --> 02:24:36,660
letting go of it makes room for the new

3174
02:24:40,910 --> 02:24:38,100
lost wife didn't want to go home and

3175
02:24:43,010 --> 02:24:40,920
that was the end thank you Lord I have

3176
02:24:44,990 --> 02:24:43,020
said your word and now I'm going to pray

3177
02:24:46,969 --> 02:24:45,000
for those that got the faith to do

3178
02:24:49,910 --> 02:24:46,979
something with what they believe thank

3179
02:24:51,950 --> 02:24:49,920
you Jesus here's a thousand dollar van

3180
02:24:55,190 --> 02:24:51,960
thank you Lord thank you Lord you say

3181
02:24:58,610 --> 02:24:55,200
you want to make a 500 valve then do it

3182
02:25:01,309 --> 02:24:58,620
then do it if that takes faith for you

3183
02:25:03,710 --> 02:25:01,319
do it you'll make a hundred dollars if

3184
02:25:08,840 --> 02:25:03,720
that takes Faith say I like a thousand

3185
02:25:15,110 --> 02:25:12,730
[Music]

3186
02:25:18,110 --> 02:25:15,120
I believe that you will agree with me

3187
02:25:20,809 --> 02:25:18,120
when I say that in the last few months

3188
02:25:22,910 --> 02:25:20,819
that and especially the last few weeks

3189
02:25:26,929 --> 02:25:22,920
that the anointing of the Holy Spirit on

3190
02:25:28,550 --> 02:25:26,939
The Telecast has been exceptional the

3191
02:25:30,410 --> 02:25:28,560
letters that we are receiving the

3192
02:25:32,750 --> 02:25:30,420
comments that you're giving us but above

3193
02:25:35,150 --> 02:25:32,760
all it's just there and we thank the

3194
02:25:38,270 --> 02:25:35,160
Lord so much for it because it is the

3195
02:25:40,190 --> 02:25:38,280
anointing that breaks the Earth it

3196
02:25:41,809 --> 02:25:40,200
breaks that your Cassandra whatever the

3197
02:25:44,809 --> 02:25:41,819
Yoke may be

3198
02:25:47,270 --> 02:25:44,819
I want to thank you also for the help

3199
02:25:49,790 --> 02:25:47,280
that you gave us last week concerning

3200
02:25:52,670 --> 02:25:49,800
the appeals that we made how we are

3201
02:25:55,010 --> 02:25:52,680
rejoicing I wish I could give you a

3202
02:25:58,429 --> 02:25:55,020
total now I can't I just can't I don't

3203
02:26:00,950 --> 02:25:58,439
have it yeah but I'm asking you please

3204
02:26:02,570 --> 02:26:00,960
God spoke with a lot of you that did not

3205
02:26:05,870 --> 02:26:02,580
respond

3206
02:26:08,330 --> 02:26:05,880
and we love you and we thank you but

3207
02:26:11,150 --> 02:26:08,340
when God speaks to you I know he'll

3208
02:26:13,910 --> 02:26:11,160
bless you if you will respond and if you

3209
02:26:33,080 --> 02:26:13,920
could send a gift of fifty dollars

3210
02:27:09,590 --> 02:26:59,770
[Music]

3211
02:27:09,600 --> 02:27:20,410
foreign

3212
02:27:40,730 --> 02:27:34,700
[Music]

3213
02:27:50,790 --> 02:27:43,480
foreign

3214
02:28:15,290 --> 02:28:01,490
[Music]

3215
02:28:25,150 --> 02:28:17,530
foreign

3216
02:28:25,660 --> 02:28:25,160
[Music]

3217
02:28:50,580 --> 02:28:25,670
[Applause]

3218
02:28:52,630 --> 02:28:50,590
[Music]

3219
02:28:56,809 --> 02:28:52,640
[Applause]

3220
02:28:58,170 --> 02:28:56,819
[Music]

3221
02:29:20,820 --> 02:28:58,180
foreign

3222
02:29:21,820 --> 02:29:20,830
[Music]

3223
02:29:33,349 --> 02:29:21,830
[Applause]